Breaking Bad

G|mp said:
And why did he do that?

Do you think it was because he needed Jesse?

Have a think before you proclaim people are wrong :)
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Same as saying people don't understand the plot ;)
It went pear shaped before Gus wanted to kill him, that was the consequence of Jesses actions.

Also him needing Jesse didn't make that much sense tbh, he wanted to make money to help save his family. Lets not use the excellent scientist that's available, Gale, lets use Jesse. In most the series he doesn't respect Jesse and just uses him to his advantage. There are a few occasions where he does help Jesse, but these are outnumbered by the times he's a ****

So in actuality Walt would have been far better off without Jesse, or at least supporting him and comforting him after Combos death.

G|mp said:
Who forced themselves to wait a week, you do realise BB started like 5/6 years ago?

It wasn't a case of waiting a week through choice, again, engage brain first. :)
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When BB came out it was shown once a week, with gaps in between the seasons.
Binge watching a show shouldn't make it worse. It's that simple.


elmuzzy66. said:
Gus was going to kill walter as soon as he had the formula for the meth imo. That didn't happen but gus was always going to get rid of walter.
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I never got his impression tbh, I saw Gus using Walter indefinitely as his meth was clearly the best. Gus was far too much of a businessman to let that fail.
 
Deep said:
I never got his impression tbh, I saw Gus using Walter indefinitely as his meth was clearly the best. Gus was far too much of a businessman to let that fail.
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He knew Walter was a loose cannon. Didn't want him in the business, but needed his methods, hence why his lab assistant was trying to learn as much as possible.
 
Deep said:
So in actuality Walt would have been far better off without Jesse, or at least supporting him and comforting him after Combos death.
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Walter helped Jesse and killed the gangsters because morally he couldn't allow Jesse to die. The gansters were horrible people - they killed a child to tie up a loose end and spite Jesse, who himself was selflessly trying to achieving a morally balanced outcome by insisting that no kids were involved in the trafficking of drugs. Until that child died, Walter was acting purely in his self-interest but he would not stoop to killing someone he took responsibility for (Jesse). Walter could not allow Jesse to die when he knew that Jesse was entirely right, and he was willing to put himself in danger to that end.

Just look at Walter's reaction when he sees the news report that the gangsters shot the kid - it's one of horror.
 
Lima said:
I really don't understand this. So you sat and watched 90% of the entire show then right as it's building up to a big conclusion you decide 'nope can't be bothered???' :confused:

I can understand if you decided in season 1 or 2, maybe even 3 to stop watching - but to waste all of that time (50 hours or so?) to then think **** it seems very odd behaviour lol
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That's jumping to the wrong conclusion from what I said.
It's not that I gave up, couldn't be bothered with it or didn't like it. I just got tired of it and couldn't stand to watch it anymore. It would have been a chore to continue, I made the decision that I'd rather give it a break and then come back and enjoy seeing how it ends. I don't consider that a waste at all :)
 
Deep said:
Same as saying people don't understand the plot ;)
It went pear shaped before Gus wanted to kill him, that was the consequence of Jesses actions.

Also him needing Jesse didn't make that much sense tbh, he wanted to make money to help save his family. Lets not use the excellent scientist that's available, Gale, lets use Jesse. In most the series he doesn't respect Jesse and just uses him to his advantage. There are a few occasions where he does help Jesse, but these are outnumbered by the times he's a ****

So in actuality Walt would have been far better off without Jesse, or at least supporting him and comforting him after Combos death.

When BB came out it was shown once a week, with gaps in between the seasons.
Binge watching a show shouldn't make it worse. It's that simple.
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It seems other people share my synopsis of the programme. So I won't go into it too much, lets see if anyone else shares your views :)

I'm fully aware of the running order of the show, I watched it first time round. My point was you stated "waiting a week to watch the next episode is stupid" Which makes me think you don't understand simple things like the running orders of television programmes. I didn't say it makes it worse, what I said was you miss the overall feeling of the programme and miss vital plot lines which you clearly have.
 
G|mp said:
I'm fully aware of the running order of the show, I watched it first time round. My point was you stated "waiting a week to watch the next episode is stupid" Which makes me think you don't understand simple things like the running orders of television programmes. I didn't say it makes it worse, what I said was you miss the overall feeling of the programme and miss vital plot lines which you clearly have.
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Your point is pretty misguided actually.
You should be able to watch a show for the first time, and feel the same as people who watched it when it came out.

G|mp said:
It seems other people share my synopsis of the programme. So I won't go into it too much, lets see if anyone else shares your views :)

miss vital plot lines which you clearly have.
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Which are open to interpretation. Your statement was still incorrect though, it still went pear shaped before Gus was going to kill Walt
 
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I've had enough of this conversation Derp.

I'm sorry you didn't enjoy one of the best series on television :)
 
spoffle said:
If you think about it, overrated isn't really a thing, because it doesn't really mean anything outside "I didn't like something as much as other people did". It isn't a metric of quality, but a lot of people seem to think it is.
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There is no more emptier or worthless critique than 'overrated' people who use it either can't express themselves properly or are being protective of their own 'best show' etc when something else gets a lot of attention and rave reviews.

'Overrated' = Lazy, stupid and pointless.
 
Did anyone else buy the series 1-5 Bluray from Zavvi in the last few days? It was priced at £49.99 with an offer of £4 off making it £45.99. I went for it, but the thing is the next day all Breaking Bad boxsets have gone from the web site, as in they just don't appear. I then get a strange marketing type email from Zavvi saying "Is this the item you were looking for" and shows the 1-5 BB bluray boxset I bought but saying it is £69.99 in the email. If I click on the link it takes me to the Zavvi site and a page showing the original £49.99 deal but saying "sold out". Like I say, that page won't appear if you search for it on the site itself.

The natural cynic in me is making this is sound like they are setting me up to avoid honouring the deal or hoping I cancel. My order still says it is "being processed". Is this typical behaviour for Zavvi? I am used to them taking ages to deliver things but this seems highly suspicious to me. I am going to call their bluff of course, if they are trying to pull a fast one, for as long as it takes.
 
Darujhistan said:
There is no more emptier or worthless critique than 'overrated' people who use it either can't express themselves properly or are being protective of their own 'best show' etc when something else gets a lot of attention and rave reviews.

'Overrated' = Lazy, stupid and pointless.
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Exactly, and what's amusing is that they often foam at the mouth if you point this out. There really is no such thing as overrated, as it implies there is some sort of objective rating it should have that people are ignoring.
 
I was a VERY late starter to the whole ' Breaking Bad' thing.

My brother had been banging on about it since season 1, but it never appealed to me.

Oh...how wrong was I.

I bing watched the entire series with the missus in 3 weeks.

Season 1 = Great
Season 2 = Good, a little slow at points
Season 3 = Slow start, but the final episodes are phenomenal
Season 4 and 5 = Probably the best TV I have ever seen. Nothing has come close. Ozymandias and Crawl Space are just mind blowing.

I know there are various different interpretations of Walter White, but when you end up actually caring about a fictional character, and justifying in your own mind the god awful stuff that he did, you know the writers got something right.

I was gutted at the end of the show.
 
I binge watched seasons 1 2 and 3 a year ago but got tired after S3 really slowed down. We got a few episodes into S4 and bailed...

A few weeks back we decided to give it another go... and watched all the remaining 26 or so episodes in 2 days :eek:
 
Zefan said:
Walt isn't supposed to be a saint, he's supposed to be human. I don't think his actions are even that extreme, given the situation he finds himself in. Sure there are points where he could back out, but his ego gets the better of him and dominates his character for the rest of the show. I don't see it as a horrifying thing, just human. We all have egos, and put in his shoes I'd bet you would be surprised how you would act.
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Agree, I actually like Walts transformation, as at the start hes mr nervous but by the end hes ending people all over the joint.

Still.... kinda agree with op it is overated.

Spartacus however, I thought I would like it, but its easily my favourite TV show ive ever seen.
 
Caught up with this, binge watched the whole 5 seasons in about 2 weeks.

The characters really sucked me in, I thought it was really really well done. Found myself at the end still wanting Walt to realise he had become a real Psycho and to make amends.

Excellent program in my eyes.
 
I don't think his actions are even that extreme, given the situation he finds himself in. Sure there are points where he could back out, but his ego gets the better of him and dominates his character for the rest of the show. I don't see it as a horrifying thing, just human. We all have egos, and put in his shoes I'd bet you would be surprised how you would act.
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Walt's reaction is definitely not normal. Most people facing death do not react by killing a couple dozen. If you going to die anyway what is the point, his arguments were wrong. He was not protecting his family by doing that.

Getting involved with a drug cartel is the opposite of safe. His drive was probably not given enough, I just remember the little kid dying of cancer who was a big fan and came on set and asked, why. The kid was right and I think they did alter or add more of the backstory about walt's dad.
That is the true motivation for his ego which is not normal but incredibly inflated by his impending death. Its realistic in that way

quick google - http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...-cancer-influenced-season-finale-got-air.html
 
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