Britain secures agreement to join Indo-Pacific trade bloc

Harlequin said:
No. I corrected you about the referendum, that the UK has not had a vote on joining the CPTPP. Anything else is exclusively from you alone.
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Well, it looks like we are going nowhere with this.

My assertion still stands that the deal was a direct result of the referendum and therefore intrinsically linked to it.

If you don't want to se that, so be it.
 
CapitalOne said:
Wierd. I took a look at the Wikipedia page, any idea how true this is CPTPP experts?

I don't want to lose any of that sovereignty we've worked so hard to take back :(
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IIRC I was in NZ when they signed it, either that or they were still bitching about it when I was there. They were NOT happy.

I fear this might be a way to water down our standards to US demands without doing so in a fresh negotiation that would attract more scrutiny.
 
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ik9000 said:
IIRC I was in NZ when they signed it, either that or they were still bitching about it when I was there. They were NOT happy.

I fear this might be a way to water down our standards to US demands without doing so in a fresh negotiation that would attract more scrutiny.
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Nobody wants good quality food, that's for the gen z avocado munchers.
 
Freakbro said:
No <lol>? you somehow don't seem as cocky as usual ;)

So we end up with the same levels of restriction on our "sovereignty" [restrictions on state aid, subject to international courts] but with less say about those rules...

GG guys, GG
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its nothing like the horrors of EU membership - you need to read up LOL
 
plasmahal said:
Well, it looks like we are going nowhere with this.

My assertion still stands that the deal was a direct result of the referendum and therefore intrinsically linked to it.

If you don't want to se that, so be it.
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Your assertion is utterly incorrect , and you are grasping at straws trying to tie CPTPP with the brexit referendum.
 
n111ck said:
its nothing like the horrors of EU membership - you need to read up LOL
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"Horrors", bless :cry:

But you're still avoiding the part where a major objection to being in the EU was having an international court being able to rule over our own courts or dictating what state aid we could give.

I thought we weren't going to be having any of that anymore?

It's especially interesting about this bit where foreign companies can sue our Govt for loss of potential future profits if they dont like changes to domestic legislation.

That was always a major objection to CPTPP the first time it came around. I wonder what made us so desperate to get trade deals that we overlook that part now.
 
hasn't that milk already run dry as of circa 2017
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unfortunately milk probably won't last the cptpp voyage - we could do with some price cuts on dairy

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Brexit - something decent for netflix

The German director Jens Meurer has found his very own answer to Brexit: With the film "Seaside Special" he sends a message of love across the English Channel. A conversation about the connecting power of a smile and the hope of returning to the community of Europe

The audience was taken back to a time when not everything was decided. Many alternately laughed and cried. Only the shrimp fisherman who opens and closes the film is still a staunch supporter of Brexit. As a shrimp fisherman, he didn't have to worry about French trawlers catching in the same waters. But it is important to him that he did not vote against Europe, only against the EU. The high percentage of "leavers" also has to do with the fact that the region sees itself as being left behind, and it is. This situation, which we also know from rural regions in Germany, is the gateway for populists and splitters everywhere.
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sigma said:
I'd argue that's exactly what it is, a power grab that the plebs are too thick to see.
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Yes, I should have said it shouldn't have been one. The disaster of having a UKIP-style government of corrupt fools without talent is clear for everyone to see.
 
Freakbro said:
"Horrors", bless :cry:

But you're still avoiding the part where a major objection to being in the EU was having an international court being able to rule over our own courts or dictating what state aid we could give.

I thought we weren't going to be having any of that anymore?

It's especially interesting about this bit where foreign companies can sue our Govt for loss of potential future profits if they dont like changes to domestic legislation.

That was always a major objection to CPTPP the first time it came around. I wonder what made us so desperate to get trade deals that we overlook that part now.
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Are you seriously suggesting this free trade deal is as pervasive as EU membership which lets face it was like a bacteria trying to infect all facets of the UK.

Are you also trying to suggest the UK should not enter any free trade deals as all will come with some compromises? Although obviously not to the extent of EU membership…lol
 
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