Britain secures agreement to join Indo-Pacific trade bloc
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I agree in some ways, but careful as it rapidly spins into justifying an intellectual elite deciding what is best for everyone. Democracy is supposed to prevent any one group dictating to others, be that due to wealth/status/intelligence etc. There is however a fundamental problem with allowing dim wits to vote in ways of national self-harm and for people in power to thus follow a non-binding advisory vote without challenging it, even when electoral commissions state the vote would be deemed void were it a binding vote, due to IIRC manipulation and coercive factors such as Cambridge Analytica and a failure to follow electoral spending requirements by the leave campaign amongst others.
SC? south carolina?
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I herewith commit to raise my standards to an appropriate level, and not sink to the level of others for comedic kicks.
Apologies to all.
Apologies to all.
It literally increases every single year.
Do you hold down a job? Does it require you to think?
I guses you have to remember that the world is full of idiots.
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It wasn't a blank cheque for the idiots in power.
Pre-internet they were restricted to shouting at the sky etc.It's not my place to say, but when there is so much evidence before you...
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Although that's exactly what has happened. The UKIP wet dream nobody really wanted.
I'd argue that's exactly what it is, a power grab that the plebs are too thick to see.
Thats not how this works. The vote in 2016 was about the EU. CPTPP is something completely sepaerate and just because of 1 vote doesnt automatically mean its carte blanche for anymore. There is precedent on this.
Why was the trade deal needed?
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To try and fill a 4% hole with 0.08% of gravel?
Sorry no, cheaper palm oil and Protons.
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I dont care, i was replying about your assertion we had a referendum on joining CPTPP when the UK hasnt
Don't deflect, you know the answer.
My assertion was that the trade deal is an outcome of the referendum that we did have.
If you did care and answered with honesty, you'd know that.
What you forget is that these activists have a disproportionate influence. I remember being at an Oil and gas conference in Aberdeen in the 80's. A guy with the biggest balls I've ever seen stood up there promoting climate change and the need to reduce oil consumption. He was just one voice but 40 years later look where we are.
A deal like this, with a significant carbon footprint, might look good now but if enough pressure is brought to bear the politicians will cave.
Good is still a relative term. I give away £4 in return for £0.08. You can't spend "potential".
No. I corrected you about the referendum, that the UK has not had a vote on joining the CPTPP. Anything else is exclusively from you alone.
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Wierd. I took a look at the Wikipedia page, any idea how true this is CPTPP experts?
I don't want to lose any of that sovereignty we've worked so hard to take back
I don't want to lose any of that sovereignty we've worked so hard to take back
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