Britain secures agreement to join Indo-Pacific trade bloc

Sankari · 30 Mar 2023 at 12:05

plasmahal said:

How's Brexit working out for ya? Oh wait, I already know that one...

Fundamentalist Brexiteers will never be swayed, but increasing numbers of Brexiteers are becoming aware of what happened back then.

A poll by Ipsos in February found that 60 per cent of British voters think the UK is heading in the wrong direction, compared to just 18 per cent who think the opposite. This month, according to the poll company Statista, 53 per cent of voters think leaving the EU was wrong, while 33 per cent believe it was the right decision.

... ONS figures show that net migration figures, excluding those in small boats, are the highest since it began collecting migration statistics in 1964.

...Next indictment: Sunak and Starmer are tossing around promises of a high growth economy, but don’t say how the nation will dig itself out of the current deep economic abyss. The BBC website states that “the rest of the G7 countries have seen trade, when compared to the size of their economies, bounce back in a way that hasn’t happened in the UK”.

Next, to the biggest drop in living standards since 1956. The incisive BBC TV interviewer Victoria Derbyshire asked John Glen, the Chief Secretary to the Treasury, whether Brexiteers had “voted to be poor”? He had no answer. A nationwide, EU funded Back to Work scheme has just ended. The UK’s replacement is costing £2.6bn. Was this ever mentioned by the bad boys of Brexit?

(Source).

Sankari · 30 Mar 2023 at 12:07

HACO said:
That ship has sailed, we won't be returning to the EU anytime soon. In a few decades, who knows what the global landscape will be like. My hope is that in the next 20-30 years the EU, the US and CPTPP will align together and maybe eventually become a single trading and regulatory block.

The US will never do that. She relies on her protectionist economy.

Mr Jack · 30 Mar 2023 at 12:09

HACO said:
That ship has sailed, we won't be returning to the EU anytime soon.

I agree that a full EU return is unlikely, but I predict a staged return. Something like a Swiss deal. I think Single Market - and FoM - in about 15 years is achievable.

My hope is that in the next 20-30 years the EU, the US and CPTPP will align together and maybe eventually become a single trading and regulatory block.

I think that's extremely unlikely. The US cannot even align rules within itself, I cannot imagine it agreeing regulatory alignment with the EU.

Uther · 30 Mar 2023 at 12:10

Sankari said:
Imagine if there was an even closer market, with superior opportunities and ease of passage...

You should be pleased, living in Australia.

HACO · 30 Mar 2023 at 12:13

Sankari said:
The US will never do that. She relies on her protectionist economy.

It's their loss. However, things will change a lot in future decades with demographic shifts. The US might become a very different place.

Mr Jack said:
I agree that a full EU return is unlikely, but I predict a staged return. Something like a Swiss deal. I think Single Market - and FoM - in about 15 years is achievable.

I would definitely hope so. Maybe that can happen even sooner. At least some provisions of it.

Mr Jack said:
I think that's extremely unlikely. The US cannot even align rules within itself, I cannot imagine it agreeing regulatory alignment with the EU.

Maybe as the US can be unpredictable. But I'm quite hopeful the EU and CPTPP will eventually align.

BUDFORCE · 30 Mar 2023 at 12:19

SixTwoSix said:
Being excited and seeing this as good news is surely akin to being happy you've only got two broken arms instead of two broken arms and two broken legs, it's still not a great situation compared to where we were at before we broke our own bones.

I agree but at least it's a step in the right direction, for once in what seems like a long time?

Sankari · 30 Mar 2023 at 12:24

Uther said:
You should be pleased, living in Australia.

I'm not, because I have family in the UK and I'm still a British citizen. Even Brexit can't take my birthright away from me. I want to see the UK succeed.

HACO said:
It's their loss. However, things will change a lot in future decades with demographic shifts. The US might become a very different place.

I'll believe it when I see it.

jpaul · 30 Mar 2023 at 12:30

Animal welfare in Aussie deal probably representative of any meat import deals this A-P initiates

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Aldi std eggs are rspca

Goksly · 30 Mar 2023 at 12:30

Let it go... Salty tears all round.

Roar87 · 30 Mar 2023 at 12:31

How is this possible? I was told it would take us 20 years to create a new trade deal without being in the EU

plasmahal · 30 Mar 2023 at 12:50

Sankari said:
How's Brexit working out for ya?

All good at the moment....

How long do you think it's going to take to undo 3 decades of EU membership?

Sankari · 30 Mar 2023 at 12:55

plasmahal said:
All good at the moment....

How long do you think it's going to take to undo 3 decades of EU membership?

You didn't even ramble, and yet you still managed to qualify for this meme:

That's quite an achievement.

Freakbro · 30 Mar 2023 at 13:03

Roar87 said:
How is this possible? I was told it would take us 20 years to create a new trade deal without being in the EU

If they did they were pretty stupid but I guess you just believed them anyway, but if we're going to go down this level of stupid anecdotes then I was told we would soar from day one of leaving, there'd be no downsides only considerable upsides, a trade deal with the EU would be the easiest in history and the EU would have collapsed by now after we left <LOL>

plasmahal · 30 Mar 2023 at 13:07

Sankari said:
You didn't even ramble, and yet you still managed to qualify for this meme:

That's quite an achievement.

As usual you dodge a perfectly reasonable question...

Chuk_Chuk · 30 Mar 2023 at 14:37

jpaul said:
Animal welfare in Aussie deal probably representative of any meat import deals this A-P initiates

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What is the purpose of cctv in a slaughterhouse?

The live exports difference i kind of understand. Australia is a huge country soo the law is modified to match its size.

Mr Jack · 30 Mar 2023 at 15:21

Chuk_Chuk said:
What is the purpose of cctv in a slaughterhouse?

Rules enforcement.

Efour · 30 Mar 2023 at 16:12

UK will be "reintegrated" within the EU in ten years, all the useful bits without the BS directives.

When labour wins the next 1 or 2 elections, by the end of all that suffering the world will be a different place.

Nate75 · 30 Mar 2023 at 16:18

Efour said:
UK will be "reintegrated" within the EU in ten years, all the useful bits without the BS directives.

When labour wins the next 1 or 2 elections, by the end of all that suffering the world will be a different place.

err no, it doesn't matter who has political power in the UK

The same old BS will happen

Too many fingers, too many pies etc (if that makes sense)

Freefaller · 30 Mar 2023 at 16:23

Doesn't seem sensible to import stuff from halfway across the world when there's stuff closer to us. But I guess we have no choice now.

What I worry about is with regards to quality of foods/meats and the prolific use of GM foods and hormone injected meats from other regions.

grudas · 30 Mar 2023 at 16:29

Freefaller said:
Doesn't seem sensible to import stuff from halfway across the world when there's stuff closer to us. But I guess we have no choice now.

What I worry about is with regards to quality of foods/meats and the prolific use of GM foods and hormone injected meats from other regions.

Agreed.

But it’s obvious that uk is struggling so something at this stage is better than nothing at all.