Britain's Defences

Is the shooting optional?

Say for example if I wanted to improve my aim and shoot daily, would I be allowed? or is it a set timetable?
 
You only shoot on ranges and exercises etc when there is a need to do so. Normally to keep yourself in date with certain yearly training criteria, these are differing between the three services.

Unfortunately everything, including rounds (bullets), costs money. Nobody can or will justify just popping down to the range every now and then when you need to lose a little frustration, nice thought though.
 
Captain Planet said:
You're forgetting about all the live rounds used on the firing range every day? :confused:
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They come from the munition stores which are normaly in non barracked areas and away from weapon stores. Most firing days the rounds are ordered and picked up from storage that morning, a lot of ranges also have amunition stores from which munition you may use comes from. Saying that most bases have a different lay out so you could be right.


Captain Planet said:
Ok maybe slight exaggeration, on our camp there are live firing exercises probably 2 times a week. Still a lot more than 300 rounds in the guard room.
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Count them the next time your in a guard room you will be suprised how few there is.
 
To jump in and disrupt the flow of the thread I'm rather proud of our Navy setup atm:

6 Type 45 Ships (Watch the 4OD on the construction of the 1st on Youtube! V. Good)

4 Astute Class Subs (When do Vanguard Class retire? They were refitted in 1998?)

2 new Air Craft carriers (ok 1 might be shunned) + new & more appropriate JSF STOVL's.

Various landing craft / helicopter launcher ships (HMS Ocean, HMS Albion, HMS Bulwark) which are too many to list, and not forgetting our auxiliary ships to support our Type 45's

I don't know why but us english commentators don't half like to dis our defences, where-as I think we have a great Army/Navy.

The Army needs (imo) to be reorganised, smaller with more support that it currently has. At the moment we can just use Americans for air support (as we do anyway) since harriers/tornadoes are retiring sooner rather than later. We have the Typhoons for the future anyway.

I am, however disappointed about our Chinooks being cut / orders scrapped. We need as many as we can possibly afford! Also are we able to use our Apaches yet having had difficulties prior.

Thats my 2p on our defences against enemies of the state, like China. :p
 
Von Smallhausen said:
Astute subs are a different class than Vanguards aren't they ?

Any sub experts on here ? How would Astute compare to the US Navy Seawolf ?
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Yup Vanguard class = Trident (SSBN) and Astute = Hunter Killer sub


Astute is supposed to be the best in its class, so I take it that its better then the Seawolf class....

Stelly
 
Von Smallhausen said:
Astute subs are a different class than Vanguards aren't they ?

Any sub experts on here ? How would Astute compare to the US Navy Seawolf ?
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vanguard are ballistic missile subs, the Astute is an attack sub.

The Astute is much better than either the electric Seawolf which was a disaster or the Virginia class electric subs the Americans currently have in service.

Basically the Astute class nuclear attack sub is the most advanced submarine in the world, that we will have seven of them eventually means we will have some serious firepower at sea.
 
territt said:
You could do better?
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:confused: :rolleyes:

What a ridiculous statement.

I never claimed I could.

I have to ask, could you?

"Mr McKerlich said HMS Astute was in an area of shallow water where he would not risk taking his yacht."



Do you think it appropriate that the Royal Navy continue to beach expensive and highly sensative equipment on our shore lines that has a potential nuclear risk?

What if we needed them to do their job, you know... 'be stealthy' and keep the thing 'under water'. Two months in and they crash it already, probably costing expensive repairs at taxpayers expense.

It is also quite embarrassing for our navy.
 
Captain Planet said:
I meant, more ammo on camp than just the 300 or so in the guard room (my poor use of English there sorry).
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If no one is at the ranges that week then chance is that that is all there is. Weapons are always store in barracks, ammo and weapons are never stored togetter. A few hundred drunken soldiers on a friday and saturday night is reason enough not to have them stored in easy reach. If they are on a posting chances are the barracks are all but empty, not good to have an ammo dump thats not secure or at lest people running around.
 
I wouldn't like to try and get into my local barracks at any time. They mean business. I've often thought about taking back Edinburgh castle though :p haha Or at least planting the saltire upon it again, just for photo oportunity :D

My step dad was a CO diver/bomb disposal expert in the RN. I stayed in the family block in faslane a few times, and the **** really hits the fan when anyone gets over the fence or swims up the loch at night.

Good fun to watch what I now presume to be marines and or rmp chasing down anti nuclear 'hippies' all around the inner roads when they breached the fence/water from the Faslane Peace Camp across the road. Woof woof woof into the night. The dogs were ace!

:p
 
Biohazard said:
Do you think it appropriate that the Royal Navy continue to beach expensive and highly sensative equipment on our shore lines that has a potential nuclear risk?
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Continue, how manytimes has it happened in the last few years?

Why the hostility towards the armed forces/intelligence services, were you rejected at the recruitment phase or didn't make it through basic/new entry training?
 
So they beached in a rapidly declining tide.....no biggie. They were probably watching what ships left the New York harbour on their monitors and someone forget to mention what time it was and.....bump.

"Errr Captain to the deck...."



/derp face!
 
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