British Grand Prix 2011, Silverstone Circuit - Race 9/19

Team orders are allowed so I haven't got an issue with it. It is a team sport. It's just funny watching horner squirm. Then after 10mins figuring out what he should have said. just say they are allowed to fight untill the last pit stop/ last few laps then it's team orders. Why did he struggle saying that. Probably as he tries hard to say everything's equal.
As DC said if you aren't happy with the team leave. Trouble is hes still in the best car with no options.
Ferrari he would be a number two. Mclaren aren't going to change their line up. Which ever team can build a winning car.
 
Drivers manage fuel, tyres and brakes right through the race, every race, that is racing also.

I doubt you'd be so upset if it was the red bulls dropping back like a stone to save fuel handing Hamilton a podium.

This and it's not the first or last time that drivers don't have enough fuel. It's not just F1 but all motorsports. There's been plenty of ***** ups with people running out of fuel on track.
 
So you are saying there should be no over taking in damp/wet conditions as you might get understeer/lockups.

It was a stupid penalty as we have seen many times and does nothing for the sport or the racing.
 
If it was quicker to go thru the pit lane because it skipped 2 corners and was quicker why didn't people just drive through them every lap? There's no rule to say u can't is there?

In the briefing they where told it would be met by penalties.
It seems like a ***** up on track design. What would a stop and go penalty receive.
 
Had it happen to me, I just got on with it to be honest. The guy apologised later and there were no hard feelings. Mistakes happen; whilst there are times when it may be necessary to apply some kind of penalty, the Schumacher incident was certainly not one of those, in my opinion.


Plenty of similar incidences with no penalty.

As for saying consistency, they should have a sit down and look at all the incidents and decide which are ok and which aren't. Say the last two seasons. Fia, stewards, drivers and team principles. Then make a public announcement and go from there. As I would say there isn't constancy anyway and it's just harming the sport.
 
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Not surprised just annoyed like usual.

Also after watching senna last night nothings changed. Still as bad as they ever where. I can't remember his early career so was very nice to see that. I can remember the early 90s though.
And the cars were sweet back then. Such simple aero, huge tyres and huge engines. Why can't we have simple aero. Only one straight plank for front and rear wing, with no other winglets or fins.

Oh and the film was amazing and if you can't remember that era, it's still a must watch.
 
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And if he had more fuel, he would be carrying more weight and he wouldn't of been the fastes. They simplupy messed up, they didn't have any dry testing time to figure out fuel weight and with the OTBD ban, they had very little idea what actual fuel usage would be.

Filling as light as possible is part of the sport, occasionally it goes wrong.
 
Do we have any information on Buttons fuel load? I can't imagine it would have been that different to Hamiltons so he may well have ended up in fuel save mode too come the end of the race?

Can't remember where I read it, probably on twitter. But it was meant to be a lot better. Possibly due to slower initial laps.
 
Trouble is you don't know whats going to happen, so how can you say it's ok if he wins by a couple of points.

There's only one issue and that was Horner squirming. Rather than saying what he finally managed to say, wen used orders for the benefit of the team.

Seems like usual we missed lots of on track action like normal.
Would it actually be worth delaying transmission by a couple of minutes so director has more time to choose shots.
 
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Race - Alonso storms to superb Silverstone victory
Fernando Alonso was always the dangerman for Red Bull after qualifying so close to them, and on Sunday afternoon he put Ferrari back in Victory Lane with a beautifully-judged performance that owed a little to a delay during Sebastian Vettel’s second pit stop.

Highlights - Fernando Alonso wins incident-packed British GP
Watch highlights as Fernando Alonso claims Ferrari's first win of the season with a superb drive at Silverstone with Sebastian Vettel second and Mark Webber third.

British Grand Prix - top three drivers
Winner Fernando Alonso, second-placed Sebastian Vettel, and third-placed Mark Webber give their thoughts after the British Grand Prix at Silverstone.

Lewis Hamilton and Felipe Massa's last-lap battle
McLaren's Lewis Hamilton and Ferrari's Felipe Massa tussle on the final lap at Silverstone. The Englishman won the battle for fourth place, but the cars did touch at one stage.

Mark Webber given team orders on British GP final lap
With Mark Webber chasing Red Bull team-mate Sebastian Vettel on the final lap of the British Grand Prix at Silverstone, team boss Christian Horner tells Webber to maintain the gap between himself and Vettel, preventing him from attempting to overtake.

Wheel nut woe ends Jenson Button's British GP
McLaren's Jenson Button is forced to retire from the British Grand Prix after his right front wheel is not properly attached during a pit stop.

McLaren and Sauber handed pit-stop fines
The McLaren and Sauber teams have both been fined for unsafe pit-stop releases during Sunday’s race at Silverstone.
 
They just seem to be comparatively rubbish at building a new car.

All most like they are blinded by one or two designs and forget or so blinkered they don't see others. Spider exhaust and L-pods but drop the ball on everything else.
 
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