British Grand Prix 2014, Silverstone - Race 9/19

Also...ALAN!?! :p
STEVE! STEVE?!


Also got back an hour or so ago. Awesome weekend, glad the weather held out and stayed dry for the most part too. View from Vale in GA is awesome, will definitely go there again rather than Grandstand should I go to Silverstone again.

Before the weekend I was thinking it would be my last Silverstone and I'll go to another race next year, but after such a good weekend it'll come down to whatever my mates are doing. We're leaning towards Spa at the moment.

Some great racing all around. Really enjoyed watching Vettel and Alonso fight whilst bitching over the radios! Atmosphere was awesome too, loved everyone cheering the British drivers lap on lap, crowd got nearly as excited for Chilton overtaking the Caterham as they did when Hamilton took the lead!
 
I feel we missed out on a couple of great little battles if the race was a little longer. Not just for this race either.

There's been a few late chargers this year and we've been denied some action. They need to do this mid flipping race. Is it the formula or the strategies causing this?

Gutted for Nico too, I would have so much preferred a proper battle up front but he showed some grace and maturity hanging around and not being too disappointed.

Glad to see Bottas up there too. He's done some good racing this season as well as Riccardo. I can only hope we see the cars closer next year for these guys to battle it out a bit more. There's some talent lurking among the experience. Certainly showing up their team mates a little.
 
They can't charge mid race or they're limping for the end. They only charge at the end because they have effectively 'excess' reserves, be it in fuel or tyres, similar to how they 'hammer time' when they're about to pit. They can just wreck the tyres and get what's left. You can't plan for having this excess at the end of the race though because you might not..
 
Tbh I thought the sound was about right, found gp2 too loud in the end.

F1 cars made a lot of different noises that are never picked up on the telly
 
STEVE! STEVE?!

We're leaning towards Spa at the moment.

This was my first weekend ever at silverstone f1 and I loved it, obviously the result made a big impact in that but it was a great buzz and the crowd cheering on every lap was mad.

I did do spa last year and again am going this year. Its totally different imo when you come into the middle of nowhere covered in huge thick green trees and you spot a bit of the track. It feels kinda special.

It may be because I camped at spa and used the bus system for Silverstone so I got much more of the night time atmosphere but I enjoyed spa just as much and it felt much more special.

Tbh I thought the sound was about right, found gp2 too loud in the end.

F1 cars made a lot of different noises that are never picked up on the telly

I think the sound was good, ok it was lacking compared to GP2 and the red bull that blated round on the 50th parade laps. but as you say the sound they made was deafening to the point I stopped watching and left the grandstand. A few more db maybe but sounded good to me.
 
The barrier was located in the middle of the straight, the chance of another driver hitting it head on was higher than me winning the lottery, and even if they did miraculously hit it full on it was a dent not some sort of protruding spike, they could have just stacked some tyres up there in the space of about 5mins instead of replacing the whole barrier.

Nonsense. You should never place safety second in order to quickly restart a race. Safety must always come first. If this means we all wait a while then so be it.

I do agree with you on one thing though. The chances of another driver hitting that same point were a hell of lot more than you winning the lottery, so at least you're right about that.
 
I'm in the "Hamilton would have got Rosberg anyway without the gearbox problem" camp.

Rosberg's fastest lap - 1’38.091 - on lap 26.

Hamilton's fastest lap - 1’37.176 - also on lap 26.

For reference, Hamilton then overtook Rosberg on lap 29 with the gearbox failure. Given that he'd just set his own fastest lap, Rosberg's gearbox problem can't have been that bad whilst it was 'developing' before the failure.



It kind of irritates me that drivers can go off the track and just expect to floor it and rejoin as if nothing has happened. I miss the days of gravel traps. Sure, there shouldn't be a massive bump there, but then drivers shouldn't assume that it is all clear either.

Agreed. It was right to repair the Armco, and the bump & lack of tyre barriers should be look into. However, Kimi appeared to be flooring it whilst off track - they shouldn't be able to do so and expect to get away with it.
 
Whoa, just seen the photo of how close the debris was for Max Chilton:

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https://twitter.com/nathanjowen/statuses/485897956097536000
 
Been back a few hours and caught up on some sleep. So much meat and cider!

Great race, great crowd as ever too, and I got a couple of Team America Secret Signals onto the Thursday F1 show :D.

As for the noise, it's interesting how things are already shifting. Talking to a lot of people there's a growing feeling that the GP2 cars are a bit harsh and 1 dimensional in their sound while F1 is far more interesting. Most of the people we chatted too who hadn't seen F1 live before complained the GP2 and even the GP3 was too loud. Having seen them live twice now I do really like the sound, but I personally wish it was louder. However that's an opinion based solely on lots of experience of the V8s. It seems most people with no experience of the V8s prefer the F1 engines to the NA support series'.
 
Had a top weekend stayed in Litchlake (anyone else?) was absolutely great weekend apart from the price on food however that was obviously expected (went in 2010).

Yep, we camped there. We had the foil wrapped Clio, Jazz and Civic and blue gazebo down on the far right edge of the first field.
 
Great race apart from the hour wait. Fantasic result for Lewis, just what he needed and wonderful to have a British winner of the British GP again. Shame Jenson couldn't manage to get on the podium.
 
I'm in the "Hamilton would have got Rosberg anyway without the gearbox problem" camp.

Rosberg's fastest lap - 1’38.091 - on lap 26.

Hamilton's fastest lap - 1’37.176 - also on lap 26.

For reference, Hamilton then overtook Rosberg on lap 29 with the gearbox failure. Given that he'd just set his own fastest lap, Rosberg's gearbox problem can't have been that bad whilst it was 'developing' before the failure.

While I think Hamilton would have gotten Rosberg anyway because he was just faster, the logic there doesn't mean much. He reported a problem earlier, even with a problem, if the problem remains the same over time then the car is still faster lap after lap as fuel goes and newer tires are on.

Until his gears actually went who knows how much time he was losing. He could have been losing half say 1/4 of a second a lap, if it was for 10 laps then you'd be faster overall in the last lap than the lap before the problem existed. It's also possible that due to Hamilton gaining so fast he simply turned his engine mode up and decided that spending fuel to maintain the gap at that point was the right thing to do. Being at his fastest the lap before can be explained many different ways even if he was losing time.

It's basically impossible to know how much time Hamilton was gaining on him per lap purely down to being faster on the track, I would suggest enough of it was just Hamilton that over the course of what, 25 laps or so that he could gain and pass him.

Put it this way, Rosberg has failed to beat Hamilton on track when he was behind him, Hamilton has won races when starting behind Rosberg, passing him in races to take wins. The on track fights are significantly in Hamilton's favour, with only a couple times Rosberg fending him off, once at Monaco, where a caterham could fend off a top car pretty easily, and once at Canada, where he required things like missing chicanes and dead brakes to stay ahead, Hamilton still got him out of the pit(due to in general being noticeably faster throughout) but his brakes failing ended it for him.

Hamilton has caught Rosberg pretty easily at every race where there wasn't some huge disadvantage, the only times he hasn't gotten by him is tracks which don't suit overtaking at all. The only time Rosberg has gotten by Hamilton is due to a Hamilton failure and the only track he's caught him from behind was when a safety car screwed hamilton and put them on slow vs hard tire and Rosberg still couldn't get by him.
 
Only 5 more wins till Hamilton has the most wins of any british F1 driver ever :eek:

That will no doubt happen this season.
 
I did laugh when the race commentator said about Maldonados airborne trip "they certainly build them strong at Lotus". I though "yep, they have to with Maldonado and Grosjean driving them!"
 
Nonsense. You should never place safety second in order to quickly restart a race. Safety must always come first. If this means we all wait a while then so be it.

There are far more dangerous places around every race track than a barrier in the middle of a straight with a dent in it, if the barrier was on the outside of a corner then I could understand the lengthy repair but it's just madness to spend an hour repairing it when the whole reason Kimi hit it was being an idiot.

People claim not repairing it is putting drivers at risk but if we're looking at theoretically possible but highly improbable scenarios then keeping the drivers hanging around for an hour without having sufficient time to prepare for the restart was probably far more dangerous.
 
At the end of the day, it was an hour, I had a grandstand ticket so went of to get some chips and lie in the sun.
 
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