British Grand Prix 2015, Silverstone - Race 9/19

For the race

1st Hamilton
2nd Massa
3rd Bottas.

Well that's what I would like. Looks like Ferrari has gone the wrong way again.
 
Skeeter said:
They had just as much chance to get it right before the season started as any of the others. None of the other 3 manufacturers were onto 5th engines before even reaching the mid season last year.
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Pretty sure they started a lot later than the other teams. Think Merc started a year early (before the regs were even finalised to be V6's rather than 4 pot).
 
Duke said:
Pretty sure they started a lot later than the other teams. Think Merc started a year early (before the regs were even finalised to be V6's rather than 4 pot).
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Thats there own doing. Honda were actually ahead of the other manufacturers. They had an engine running in a current chassis on track in the November before the season. That's a full 3 months ahead of the other 3 who first bolted their engines into cars in February.

Honda have had just as much opportunity as the rest, and then been given additional extra handouts on top, but have completely screwed it up.
 
Yup, Mclaren had options, they could have made the deal with Honda and agreed to come in for 2016 or even 17, or been smart and gone to Honda in 2011 the day after the new regulations were agreed, get a deal done in a month and start work on the engine... instead they signed a deal and made sure they would be coming into the sport with 18 months of development. This was Honda and Mclaren's decisions, it was inept, it is one of the most stupid decisions any team has ever made.

Actively laying out a plan that would make certain you will have around half the engineering time of everyone else in a sport where engineering is key, plain stupid, no other way to describe it.

The question for me is really can they reverse they mistakes they made this year in next years design or are their too many problems in the engine to be changed within the regulations to make the changes they need.
 
Locky said:
The media writing off Hamilton in practice and he pulls out another cheers easy.
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Media are rubbish, he had a issue in FP2, I missed the pre FP3 stuff but I saw someone mention something about finding a problem and fixing it before FP3. He was fastest in FP3, fast in FP1 and is a better qualifier than Rosberg. NO idea why anyone thought he wouldn't be competitive.

Sky's insistence of inflicting drama on the sport is becoming more and more tiresome.
 
You do know they do it because the racing is so predictable and boring, a sport that needs drama to liven it up is already going in the wrong direction.

What an utter borefest when you know which car and driver combination is going to finish 1-2 before we've arrived at said circuit.

Great for those who support teams or drivers, not so much for a neutral who wants to see competition.
 
There are 18 other cars on the track.

You can hardly claim you want to see competition, and then completely ignore 90% of the competitors.
 
Mclaren goes from bad to worse, to worse, to inept, to laughable, to today.... where ALonso had one of Button's tires on during qualifying and is DQ'd from qualifying. So he's starting from the back, or the pit lane, don't know.

Mclaren.... seriously?


https://vid.me/xUsJ

lol, so appropriate for this situation.

EDIT:- sounding like just a reprimand rather than being DQ'd. Saving face for Mclaren or is it not really a disqualifying type thing. It doesn't matter anyway, they'll eat the Manor's alive on the grid anyway, pass them again by half way then not finish the race :p

Actually the almost ridiculous thing is the Canada upgraded engines haven't lasted practice sessions or a full race yet, the older engine which they are now using actually has lasted full races so they probably have a better chance of finishing the race on the old engine.
 
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Doohickey said:
Of course not. What I meant was shouldn't this be worked out long before race weekend? I don't think it's fair to be making changes midway through a qualifying session.
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You do realise this was a decision made and told to the teams before qualifying, in fact the official not sent to the teams was before 7am this morning. They were told well in advance and it depends on a track to track basis because some years drivers don't go near a particular corner, another year after practice it becomes clear some drivers are gaining an advantage by going off the track somewhere. It was cleared up WAY before qualifying and everyone was made completely aware.

This didn't happen anywhere near mid qualifying sessions, you can even see on the FIA website the first deleted lap was 4 mins into qualifying which would be basically the first possible flying lap time.
 
drunkenmaster said:
Media are rubbish, he had a issue in FP2, I missed the pre FP3 stuff but I saw someone mention something about finding a problem and fixing it before FP3. He was fastest in FP3, fast in FP1 and is a better qualifier than Rosberg. NO idea why anyone thought he wouldn't be competitive.

Sky's insistence of inflicting drama on the sport is becoming more and more tiresome.
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Did you see the Team Principal Press conference yesterday?
 
drunkenmaster said:
You do realise this was a decision made and told to the teams before qualifying, in fact the official not sent to the teams was before 7am this morning. They were told well in advance and it depends on a track to track basis because some years drivers don't go near a particular corner, another year after practice it becomes clear some drivers are gaining an advantage by going off the track somewhere. It was cleared up WAY before qualifying and everyone was made completely aware.

This didn't happen anywhere near mid qualifying sessions, you can even see on the FIA website the first deleted lap was 4 mins into qualifying which would be basically the first possible flying lap time.
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Ok, then how come they were talking about the uncertainty over Grosjean's lap. I forget which corner (not Copse)- First going off track was fine because there was no advantage to be gained, but then apparently they decided there was an advantage after all, and his time was invalidated.
 
Doohickey said:
Ok, then how come they were talking about the uncertainty over Grosjean's lap. I forget which corner (not Copse)- First going off track was fine because there was no advantage to be gained, but then apparently they decided there was an advantage after all, and his time was invalidated.
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Charlie was on commentary saying he wasn't sure? Or you know the commentators who don't know what they are talking about were saying THEY didn't know if the lap would be deleted.

It's pretty likely that in the stewards room they are stacking up replays for them to watch and judge then deleting as and when appropriate. That might mean when several laps happen at the same time that need viewing it takes a bit longer for the time to be removed.

Sky commentators, Crofty in particular, not having a freaking clue what he's talking about is anything but uncommon.

http://www.fia.com/file/30731/download?token=WyCRVurR

from the FIA page here

http://www.fia.com/events/fia-formula-1-world-championship/season-2015/event-timing-information-7

Detailing the precise thing the teams were informed of and when the document was put out.
 
V F said:
Claire was rattled by the bad press F1 is apparently getting and she wants the fans to focus on the good.
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I watched it because you mentioned it and there were some very good responses.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CTSCIY8o9dw

the question that was about what you'd do if a chief exec told you your product was crap, which was about Bernie but everyone except Vijay answered as if it were their own teams chief exec being talked about was pretty funny.
 
How was it that people were getting penalised for going off at turn 9 but not penalised for going off at the last corner?
 
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