Poll: British Grand Prix 2021, Silverstone - Race 10/23

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They would not be publicising the cost if Max made the error himself. They would be silent, hoping the media attention went away. They can afford it. Perhaps Horner and Maxine can have a root around in their back pockets. That will probably be enough for at least their illegal rear wing. ;)
 
adam cool dude said:
What makes you so sure the Mercedes will be dominant through the rule change?
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I'm not but my understanding is that Mercedes are putting a lot of money already into the next car and slowing development on their current one, whereas RBR are putting most of their development into this years' car.
 
So Max tweets it was disrespectful and unsportmanslike for Hamilton to celebrate a victory after sending him to hospital.
2 Days later Redbull announces there's nothing wrong with him and is given the all clear.

What a whiner :/
 
Senna and Prost had their share of shunts too. You have to be aggressive or you'll never get anywhere as a racing driver.

Then you rub it in to an already salty rival. Mind games :D
 
This cracks me up... https://www.formula1.com/en/latest/...d-bull-with-power.7sA5F3Yuea9q1EpDJtqpes.html

Deny all knowledge that you've developed the engine outside of the token system, but forget how you've boasted how it's more powerful than the 2020 Merc....

https://the-race.com/formula-1/how-honda-made-its-2021-f1-engine-smaller-than-size-zero/

However, Honda says its 2021 engine is even smaller overall, despite being considerably more powerful and reliable than those first attempts at a V6 turbo-hybrid engine – and, crucially, a significant step from its 2020 design.
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I do wonder if anyone will be appealing their engine change given they officially spent their tokens on gearbox casing but turned up this year with a radical new design.
 
RevBillyG said:
So Max tweets it was disrespectful and unsportmanslike for Hamilton to celebrate a victory after sending him to hospital.
2 Days later Redbull announces there's nothing wrong with him and is given the all clear.

What a whiner :/
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Hamilton didn't even have a clue he was in hospital until the interviews after all the celebrations either.
 
Must admit, half my dislike for Max actually stems from the Dutch commentators I have to endure over here.

eg. At the Austrian GP, Bottas says he lost 0.2sec during qualifying due to Max being in the way.
The commentators remark? "Prima" ie Excellent. They're like that in all aspects. To be fair at least they now stop talking constantly about him after he crashes off so that's a bit of relief. It used to be just Max, Max, Max :)

I do love how the Belgian news channels love to keep mentioning he was born there tho :D
 
andy_mk3 said:
Hamilton didn't even have a clue he was in hospital until the interviews after all the celebrations either.
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And given how RB have hyped this all up and tried to make political capital from it, you have to wonder if they INSISTED he went to hospital after he was checked out fine by the Silverstone medical facilities... ;)
 
Bernie Ecclestone said:
Lewis was not in front at the point they collided. It wasn't his corner. He was almost a car's length behind. That's why he hit him at the back not the front. (LINK)
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Bernie is a respected elderly Gent who was once heavily involved in Formula One, his eyesight may be failing ;)
Max’s RB16B damage stands at ‘three quarters of a million’
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I carry round a pack of cans of Red Bull in my boot, just in case I feel sleepy on a long drive - I had better buy another pack :D
 
EVH said:
If you can't debate sensibly other than "durrr read my linkz" then you need to backup your nonsense. You haven't.

Seriously, what are you going on about. Where did your 3 years straw man come from?

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If you was a straw man you would be on fire.

I said Hamilton had done the same thing 3 seasons on the trott.

1....Hamilton took out Albon the same way at the Brazil GP.
2....Hamilton took out Albon again at the Austrian GP the same way the season after.
3....Hamilton made the same mistake at the last GP taking out max.

Hamilton also took out a red bull car(I think it was danny ric) at the Hungarian first corner.
Hamilton has lost the plot again...how so? He starts coming out with BS.

"I was right along max when we crashed" REALLY? so tell me lewis, if you was that far ahead.
How did your front left hit Max's right rear? hmmmmm

And it looks like RB will appeal. I have never seen that happen.

"Brundle: Red Bull claim to have damning Hamilton data"
 
deuse said:
It looks like RB will appeal. I have never seen that happen.

"Brundle: Red Bull claim to have damning Hamilton data"
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Of course they do....

The penalty was given, not sure what it is they hope to achieve other than stoking this stupid media fire and feeding the trolls, now who is classy?

I hope 2022 sees Ferrari and Mclaren knock it out the park, leaving Merc and Redbull to fight for scraps at this rate.
 
deuse said:
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Brundle: Red Bull claim to have damning Hamilton data.
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I presume that this is your "source"? (My emphasis below)
Martin Brundle said:
I am told by Red Bull there is data to prove Lewis was significantly faster into Copse than at any other time and he would not have made the corner without running wide, and inevitably contacting Max.

Presumably, that will be made publicly available and if Red Bull feel they have 'new evidence' they may well make an appeal to the FIA as to their perceived degree of fault and leniency regarding Hamilton."
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Max is super aggressive, and we love him for that, but Lewis decided he was going to counter that aggression. This incident was only a matter of time.

Unfortunately, it happened at Copse corner, one of the world's fastest. We have seen many key overtakes here over the decades, always needing bravery, skill and some risk. (LINK)
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So; it appears that despite what Horner asserts, overtakes at Copse Corner are not altogether unheard of and you would think that Red Bull would by now have realised that Formula One is a "risky" activity.

As to Hamilton being "significantly faster into Copse than at any other time and he would not have made the corner without running wide, and inevitably contacting Max." Perhaps Horner believes that Hamilton should have started the race in a relaxed, leisurely way like your average Sunday outing?


Red Bull have "evidence" that Hamilton "would not have made the corner without running wide".
REALLY?
Evidence rather than just a belief?

God save us from the Horner Hubris :rolleyes:
 
deuse said:
If you was a straw man you would be on fire.

I said Hamilton had done the same thing 3 seasons on the trott.

1....Hamilton took out Albon the same way at the Brazil GP.
2....Hamilton took out Albon again at the Austrian GP the same way the season after.
3....Hamilton made the same mistake at the last GP taking out max.

Hamilton also took out a red bull car(I think it was danny ric) at the Hungarian first corner.
Hamilton has lost the plot again...how so? He starts coming out with BS.

"I was right along max when we crashed" REALLY? so tell me lewis, if you was that far ahead.
How did your front left hit Max's right rear? hmmmmm

And it looks like RB will appeal. I have never seen that happen.

"Brundle: Red Bull claim to have damning Hamilton data"
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https://twitter.com/F1/status/1416770402521698305/photo/1

I'd say thats pretty far alongside.. clearly as Lewis was going faster than Max (significantly, due to higher top speed AND the tow) he had to brake earlier to make corner (which we have to assume was the idea!) so he then does drop back but he's claimed the corner according to the rules allegedly...

I don't say he's blameless but to me that is clearly a racing incident BOTH share some responsibility for. Sure the stewards blamed Lewis in the majority hence his penalty but that's it. No need for RBR histrionics and all the hate we see now
 
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