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Poll: British Grand Prix 2021, Silverstone - Race 10/23
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I guess that is the point. RB are putting everything they have into winning this championship as they will be back to mid runners again next season
. If they don't win it Mr Red Bull will be making heads roll.
Soldato
I guess that is the point. RB are putting everything they have into winning this championship as they will be back to mid runners again next season
Oh if Max doesn't win it and 2022 is a shambles then with Redbulls record of drivers who knows what will happen.
I just don't like them as a team and never have.
Red Bull are just embarrassing themselves now.
It was a pretty standard coming together between two rivals that refused to back down. This is what happens when someone does not yield or give space.
Lewis was more than half way in front leading into the corner and in no way moved towards Max to punt him off. Max had acres of space on his left so could have just taken a wider line to 100% avoid contact with Lewis. Lewis likewise could have yielded/backed out more.
The way RBR are reactingis ridiculous. They need to get over it and teach Max that if he has such a large championship lead again, it might be safer to settle with a podium than risk a dnf, and not expect everyone to just yield to him all the time.
Getting lawyers in....just lol.
Also, just to add, I see many comments that imply Hamilton did it intentionally, which makes no sense. That incident could have just as easily finished Lewis' race aswell / instead (essentially ending his title chances) and Lewis needs all the points he can get. Intentionally wiping himself and his rival out each race isn't going to get him nowhere. There is NO way Lewis was thinking "I'm going to intentionally boot Max off the track here". No doubt he will be taking more risks to try and close the gap, but intentional crashes will get him nowhere.
It was a pretty standard coming together between two rivals that refused to back down. This is what happens when someone does not yield or give space.
Lewis was more than half way in front leading into the corner and in no way moved towards Max to punt him off. Max had acres of space on his left so could have just taken a wider line to 100% avoid contact with Lewis. Lewis likewise could have yielded/backed out more.
The way RBR are reactingis ridiculous. They need to get over it and teach Max that if he has such a large championship lead again, it might be safer to settle with a podium than risk a dnf, and not expect everyone to just yield to him all the time.
Getting lawyers in....just lol.
Also, just to add, I see many comments that imply Hamilton did it intentionally, which makes no sense. That incident could have just as easily finished Lewis' race aswell / instead (essentially ending his title chances) and Lewis needs all the points he can get. Intentionally wiping himself and his rival out each race isn't going to get him nowhere. There is NO way Lewis was thinking "I'm going to intentionally boot Max off the track here". No doubt he will be taking more risks to try and close the gap, but intentional crashes will get him nowhere.
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Soldato
I pointed that out yesterday and Martin brundle mentioned it, in P1&2 and qualifying he took the same line every timeSaw this on twitter.
Hamiltons racing line in qualifying and during lap 1. Not much in it at all.
Saw this on twitter.
Hamiltons racing line in qualifying and during lap 1. Not much in it at all.
Yep, Verstappen was clearly trying to make the apex as well and two cars simply don't go into one, even if Hamilton had been hugging the inside white line all of the way they would have eventually collided at the apex (where the curb is). Verstappen should have gone around the outside as Hamilton had already won the inside line despite Verstappen trying to squeeze him into breaking.
When F1 used to be dangerous drivers knew to give each other space because their lives depended on it, now that it's so safe they just try to bully one another into braking. At what point do you say too much safety is a bad thing when it makes drivers so aggressive?
Anyway, racing incident all day long for me. Verstaoppen was essentially playing chicken by cutting across Hamilton's line and Hamilton didn't want to back down because he knew from the Mickey Mouse race that it might be his only chance.
Soldato
If you look at the second picture max was in front and therefor had the corner\racing line.
As danny ric and lando have said. Hamilton went to fast in to the corner and under steered.
Soldato
Saw this on twitter.
Hamiltons racing line in qualifying and during lap 1. Not much in it at all.
You forget they are full of fuel.
Hamilton should have been wider but max was there.
Soldato
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"Vettel was given a five second penalty, but still finished in fifth place. Bottas, the victim of Vettel's tap, finishes seventh." 2018 French GP
Hamilton said
'Ultimately, if you ruin someone's race because of a mistake, and you're able to come back to a place ahead of the other person, that penalty doesn't outweigh your mistake. You shouldn't be able to finish ahead of the other person if you take them out of the race. It's like you're violating the speed, but just let you go,''
How things change.
Hamilton said
'Ultimately, if you ruin someone's race because of a mistake, and you're able to come back to a place ahead of the other person, that penalty doesn't outweigh your mistake. You shouldn't be able to finish ahead of the other person if you take them out of the race. It's like you're violating the speed, but just let you go,''
How things change.
Soldato
Surely whether or not it's a mistake by Hamilton is what a lot of this arguing is about though? So this quote isn't necessarily relevant.
He's trying to use it as a 'gotcha' moment. But people can do that about Horner.
People are willfully ignoring all the times Lewis has avoided incidents with Max. The one time he doesn't yield after being bullied for a few corners and suddenly he is a maniac who wants to murder competitors
Christian Horner said:
People are willfully ignoring all the times Lewis has avoided incidents with Max. The one time he doesn't yield after being bullied for a few corners and suddenly he is a maniac who wants to murder competitors
I think all of those times that has happened Hamilton was in Max's weaker vulnerable position too playing the numbers game, this time around Hamilton was in the stronger position ie if contact occurs Max would likely spin although obviously with the risk of Hamilton sustaining damage, or if Max carried on he would have run wide and probably have to relinquish the position. (similar to Bahrain)
It's laughable when you read it like that, but it's actually happening.
Soldato
8 wins at a single track is pretty damn amazing, can't wait until the 2022 cars change and maybe things won't be as obvious though.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rp0GG4y3is8
Analysis of the incident by Jolyon Palmer. As said earlier though, the line Lewis took through copse was his line throughout the weekend. The media offensive by the RBR camp is just unreal though.
Analysis of the incident by Jolyon Palmer. As said earlier though, the line Lewis took through copse was his line throughout the weekend. The media offensive by the RBR camp is just unreal though.
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