Poll: British Grand Prix 2021, Silverstone - Race 10/23

[Slam62]

I thought the move on the first corner was dodgy, he leaves the track comes back on and bangs wheels with Lewis, I know it's the first corner and all but he must have done it deliberately.
There were various other reckless moves before the final one, it would be hilarious if Max loses the championship now, RB seem very worried about something.

 

[Lakeland]

Before I even watch it I know I'm likely to disagree with it mind. I'm at racing incident where is he at?

I've seen a fair few of his videos of this nature and I always seem to disagree with his conclusions. (I know he's of course more of an authority than me) but he seems to nearly always go against the grain.

Save yourself from watching it.. he basically blames Hamilton for being off line and says verstappen did nothing wrong.

I’m sure he’ll get loads of new Dutch subscribers but in terms of accuracy he’s way off imo.

 

[GR63]

He really is just a petulant, arrogant, grumpy, aggressive teenager, isn't he?

at 23... showing he isnt growing up... Great talent but completely lacking in common sense.

 

[Jono8]

Some of the comments I'm reading elsewhere about this are insane. There people saying Lewis should have got a penalty for the same move on Leclerc because he forced leclerc wide/to back out.

Pretty much all overtakes involve a driver positioning their car in a position where it makes it awkward for the opponent to keep ahead or forces them to concede. There has to be some degree of being able to force your opponent away from their racing line etc. As long as you aren't actively being dangerous or swerving to just push an opponent off the track, I think most things should be fair game.

 

[ChrisD.]

I'd love to see some of these so called motorsport fans reactions to something like the DTM or BTCC racing.

 

[JRS]

I'd love to see some of these so called motorsport fans reactions to something like the DTM or BTCC racing.

Given the generally deplorable state of the driving standards in the BTCC, are you really sure you wanna bring that up?

 

[this_is_gav]

For a bit of perspective I think we need to remember that Hamilton only made his debut aged 22, and he while his performances were good from the off he was certainly no angel, especially in his second and third seasons.

Hamilton's Singapore crash with Webber in 2010 brings some parallels albeit at a slower speed, with Hamilton on the outside being clipped by Webber on inside, taking Hamilton out of the race and severely damaging his championship chances. In that instance Hamilton blamed Webber, though Webber was on the apex.

I'd love to see some of these so called motorsport fans reactions to something like the DTM or BTCC racing.

Punch ups in the pit-lane? We don't need that.

 

[ChrisD.]

Punch ups in the pit-lane? We don't need that.

With Max threatening to headbutt people we aren't far off. It was a tongue in cheek comment.

 

[Feek]

Max drives the way I drive F1 racing games when I've got the damage turned off

 

[Yaayuh!]

Max drives the way I drive F1 racing games when I've got the damage turned off

Ah but you know full well with damage off you ram it up the inside and use the other car/s to make the corner. Making it more comparable to what Lewis did

 

[GR63]

Max drives the way I drive F1 racing games when I've got the damage turned off

Do people drive with damage on?

 

[GR63]

Q: has anyone seen ANY comment from Nico Rosberg on the Lewis/Max collision? I'd be interested in Nico's view....

 

[ZG002]

For a bit of perspective I think we need to remember that Hamilton only made his debut aged 22, and he while his performances were good from the off he was certainly no angel, especially in his second and third seasons.

I'd completely agree with that.

Lewis isn't the same driver he used to be in terms of aggression and risk (although it looks like it's still something he can switch back on...)

It's not as exciting to watch but playing the numbers game is what wins championships typically.

It's something Max will likely grow into imo, he's still young and I'm not sure those around him have helped but who knows? Once they have all calmed down it might of opened his eyes, if some how Lewis manages to over take and starts to pull away in the table this year he will have no choice but to reflect.

 

[pallys]

Can't help feel that Hamilton is being bullied here. The personal attacks from redbulls senior personnel, in particular Christian Horner, Ive never seen it any sport. It was very very personal.

 

[Junglist]

Oh god the circus show continues... Red Bull are coming out of this looking really bad.

Speaking exclusively to Motorsport.com about the nature of the post-race reaction, Mercedes team boss Toto Wolff said: "It's important to understand all the feedback that we received.

"We had the feedback from senior management of Red Bull that Max was fine. Christian [Horner] mentioned it to [F1 race director] Michael Masi on the intercom that he's unharmed and fine, and the FIA gave us similar feedback.

"So at no point would we have celebrated if Max would have been injured. And I think that's very important to understand."

The Sauce


So after laying it on thick about their celebrations being distasteful it was because Horner himself said Max was fine.

So what were all those comments about Lewis being wrong for celebrating?

 

[Mr Jack]

Save yourself from watching it.. he basically blames Hamilton for being off line and says verstappen did nothing wrong.

It's perfectly possible for reasonable people to disagree about an incident. In this case I don't agree with Driver61 but I respect that he gives a professional and detailed opinion. But...

Analysis of the incident by Jolyon Palmer. As said earlier though, the line Lewis took through copse was his line throughout the weekend. The media offensive by the RBR camp is just unreal though.

... this analysis is the better one to my mind. Hamilton is well alongside Max and holds a fair line through the corner, the image of them immediately before the corner showing how wide Max is running is a telling one. Max turns in, then turns it again and harder attempting to slam the door on Hamilton mid-corner. His misjudgement is what caused the accident.

 

[Mr Jack]

As usual, Chain Bear's take is worth a gander:

He puts it in the racing incident bracket tending towards Hamilton to blame.

 

[GravyMonster]

So after laying it on thick about their celebrations being distasteful it was because Horner himself said Max was fine.

Not to mention Horner claiming that Max needed to be taken to hospital, implying he was injured, to anyone who'd stick a microphone in front of his face, despite it being completely routine for any driver in a crash over a certain G-force - 25 IIRC.

I didn't think much of any of the RB brass before, and it's even lower now.

 

[Junglist]

Not to mention Horner claiming that Max needed to be taken to hospital, implying he was injured, to anyone who'd stick a microphone in front of his face, despite it being completely routine for any driver in a crash over a certain G-force - 25 IIRC.

I didn't think much of any of the RB brass before, and it's even lower now.

You're making Horner sound better. I felt he didn't say Max needed to be taken to hospital. The vibe I got was "Lewis sent Max to hospital" which rings completely differently

 

[cu3ed]

Oh god the circus show continues... Red Bull are coming out of this looking really bad.



The Sauce


So after laying it on thick about their celebrations being distasteful it was because Horner himself said Max was fine.

So what were all those comments about Lewis being wrong for celebrating?

It's even worse when you consider how Horner got on After telling Merc that he's fine. Bad bad week for RB after all the nasty stuff they have spouted. Some of it has been a direct attack on Hams character that has never been heard before.