Caporegime
can you get at the sump cover easily to check and see if its in there ?
Running a magnet in it should bring it up i think ?
Running a magnet in it should bring it up i think ?
Broken spark plug :(
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Caporegime
How would it end up in the sump?
Magic.
Quote possible as 2 and 3 where finger tight. I've email Throney anyway so I'll see what they say. How would it get into the sump though? I'd thought the only way for it to go is out the exhaust valves.
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Caporegime
Or engine gnomes its hard to call.
The OP might want to check the coolant expansion tank whilst he's at it could be in that...
Best check the fuel tank, might affect the fuel feed when the tank gets low and picks up the rubbish from the bottom
Caporegime
Good thinking i hate the rusted metal and gravel that gathers at the bottom of my plastic fuel tank.
It's ok Bryan I found it in my shoe.
Well I don't know what damage there is if anyway as the engine was shut off within 10 seconds of the EML light coming on.
Soldato
By which point the piston in the cylinder has already pounded the tip of the sparkplug into the valves, top of the head and piston crown a meaningful (and very approximate) 125 times, then spat the rememants (if any) through the turbocharger
So I can expect a hefty bill then if TMS say no?
Caporegime
Depends it could have done several nasty things whist moving around in the bore, i'd be in several minds as to what i want to do in this situation, half of me would want to remove the head and check for damage, the other half would stick some new plugs in and see what happened.
1) Could have marked the bore, leading to potential compression / oil burning / usage issue.
2) Could have damaged a valve / valve seat.
3) Could have damaged the turbo exhaust side compressor when it got spat out.
4) Could be lodged in the bottom of an exhaust silencer.
5) longshot could block your oil pickup in the sump.......
1) Could have marked the bore, leading to potential compression / oil burning / usage issue.
2) Could have damaged a valve / valve seat.
3) Could have damaged the turbo exhaust side compressor when it got spat out.
4) Could be lodged in the bottom of an exhaust silencer.
5) longshot could block your oil pickup in the sump.......
I don't, but then it's also probably none of my business. Then again we all post our business on the internet, so I guess it doesn't matter
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You could get someone to have a look down the plug hole with a borescope.TMS may have one.
It's getting it there though. I don't want to drive it and TMS is 170 miles way.
Soldato
The tip has probably already left the chamber through the exhaust valve..
That bottom pic doesn't look right though, looks like the plug has overheated as Dandle says. I'd get the timing double checked.
That bottom pic doesn't look right though, looks like the plug has overheated as Dandle says. I'd get the timing double checked.
Soldato
Just to give you an idea, my Scoob spat half of a Valve head out without damaging any pistons, head or turbo.
And the the head of the valve was the size of a 10p piece.
I think the fact the car continued to run after this happened would lead me to think if any damage was to be done it's prob been done - so I'd stick a new set of plugs in and see if it misfires and if the turbo boosts.
And the the head of the valve was the size of a 10p piece.
I think the fact the car continued to run after this happened would lead me to think if any damage was to be done it's prob been done - so I'd stick a new set of plugs in and see if it misfires and if the turbo boosts.