BT announce first exchanges to get FTTC

Nymins said:
Surprised Belfast is on the list. Usually last to get most upgrades.
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Balmoral exchange covers pretty much most of the south of the city, including plenty of places which are long lines. They probably thought long and hard about this one, I can see it being one of the most expensive to implement.



(That's with having no idea what the rest of the exchange areas look like, but if they're anything like this one the overall cost will be hooge :p)
 
tolien said:
Openreach don't restrict it at all. What their customer's customers (the ISPs) choose to do is up to them.
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Openreach dictate the prices and ISPs make up their products in line with this. That's a pretty clear restriction in my books.

My guess is BT are only pushing fibre so they can expand on their video streaming services, any other bandwidth intensive application will be restricted by cost.
 
NathanE said:
Will it support ADSL2+ as well? Given that VDSL2 hardware is surely going to be rare as hens teeth and cost a bomb for at least about 5 years?
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I'm pretty sure that a lot of VDSL2 cards support ADSL2+ too so it's probably technically possible to support it... as to whether or not they'll actually go that route (I imagine they'd prefer to fill the slots with higher-paying VDSL2 customers), I couldn't say.
 
As far as I've seen, other countries doing VDSL2 provide a modem similar to how Virgin Media provide a cable modem. Demand will drive prices down too - look at how much a cable modem is to buy.

norm said:
Openreach dictate the prices and ISPs make up their products in line with this. That's a pretty clear restriction in my books.
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Ofcom generally dictate the prices BT Wholesale can charge - how that structure will change with FTTC remains to be seen.

The status quo is that Openreach charge BT Wholesale a fee to connect to the copper pair and that's all, then BT Wholesale charge their customers based on bandwidth.
Openreach aren't limiting anything - ISPs could, and some do, offer an unlimited product. It's got nothing to do with any part of BT whether some ISPs choose to chase the bottom end of the market and set limits and it's worth noting that most ISPs wanted CBC because it meant 8Mbps for <£80 (which the Margin Squeeze Test would've set it at).

My guess is BT are only pushing fibre so they can expand on their video streaming services, any other bandwidth intensive application will be restricted by cost.
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Er, different division of BT.
 
So when this happens, will existing ADSL connections be rerouted over FTTC? Or will it only work for people who specifically order it, with standard ADSL links continuing to use copper to the exchange?

I'm on an up-to-8Mbps package but only sync at 4. Exchange is at least 3km away and there's a cabinet just down the road, so it would be great if I could get a shorter line without doing anything.
 
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im on a summer trial exchange. which means ill get a good upstream, because in the final product they wont allow it to bite into their leased line market.
openreach doc says its 40/15. vdsl2 in theory is max 250mbit synchronous. in practise 100mbit upto 500m. (from cab) vdsl3 will be about 500mbit.
vdsl modems are just like adsl2+ modems. ONI modems for fttp have optical inputs. very nice. still ill probably get on cable if they start wholesale with docsis 3, for upto 320mbit.
 
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hedgey said:
im on a summer trial exchange. which means ill get a good upstream, because in the final product they wont allow it to bite into their leased line market.
openreach doc says its 40/15. vdsl2 in theory is max 250mbit synchronous. in practise 100mbit upto 500m. (from cab) vdsl3 will be about 500mbit.
vdsl modems are just like adsl2+ modems. ONI modems for fttp have optical inputs. very nice. still ill probably get on cable if they start wholesale with docsis 3, for upto 320mbit.
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Are you in Whitchurch? According to theregister.co.uk they are enabling the Cardiff Empire exchange but the trial is being carried out in Whitchurch.

15mbit upload is pure, unadulterated *** :)
 
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