BT Infinity & FTTx Discussion

Blackjack Davy · 23 Jul 2023 at 01:20

Are they really that bad? When I was with them it was ok not great but ok. I've got a Shell Energy router on the way so we'll see how that turns out!

Aaaaand the routers turned up its hilariously bad the only thing worse I've seen was mother's Post Office Broadband's Zyxel router which consisted of a single ethernet port and no wifi

shame I can't flash the old Plusnet Hub 2 router its not bad as far as ISP routers go

ChrisD. · 23 Jul 2023 at 19:02

b0rn2sk8 said:
I'm not really sure that is a particularly strong selling point. Swapping an ISP supplied router doesn't really go any further than plugging it in and changing the WiFi SSID and password to whatever the old one was so all your devices automatically connect. It's basically 1 less than 60 second additional step you might do once every 2 years (counting for changing the SSID and password being equivalent to changing the PPOE details for the new provider).

Depends on how many Wi-Fi devices you have I guess, I have around 20 and to change the network on each one would take considerable more time compared to entering in new PPPoE details in UniFi.

b0rn2sk8 · 23 Jul 2023 at 20:17

ChrisD. said:
Depends on how many Wi-Fi devices you have I guess, I have around 20 and to change the network on each one would take considerable more time compared to entering in new PPPoE details in UniFi.

I think you miss missed the context on that one. If you are just using an ISP router and need to swap it to a new ISP router, you can just change the WiFi SSID and password on the new ISP router to whatever the old ISP router was set to and all your devices will automatically connect to the new router with zero hassle. There is no need to touch any of the individual devices.

If you are already using a standalone router or access points - the content of the post does not apply.

ChrisD. · 23 Jul 2023 at 20:23

b0rn2sk8 said:
I think you miss missed the context on that one. If you are just using an ISP router and need to swap it to a new ISP router, you can just change the WiFi SSID and password on the new ISP router to whatever the old ISP router was set to and all your devices will automatically connect to the new router with zero hassle. There is no need to touch any of the individual devices.

If you are already using a standalone router or access points - the content of the post does not apply.

Ah yes, you are correct.

n30_mkii · 24 Jul 2023 at 16:43

Has anyone had an underground bt cable replaced with fibre? I'm curious if they're able to effectively pull it through using the old cable or blow it through once the old cable is removed. It's the first property I've owned without an overhead line coming in. It was built in 1969, and seems to be run inside an armoured sleeve and then inside a metal pipe. The reason I ask is apparently fibre is coming to the area in the next eighteen months.

b0rn2sk8 · 24 Jul 2023 at 16:46

They’ll just pull it through an existing duct if there is one, if not, they’ll put on in as part of the installation.

They should dig up and replace your front garden as it was (ish).

Caged · 24 Jul 2023 at 17:09

If you're direct in ground which 1969 and an armoured cable would suggest, then you will get the FTTP duct network installed to just outside your boundary. A cable will then be run to your house on the day of the installation.

Furyus · 24 Jul 2023 at 20:51

Anyone currently on the BT 900/120 package? and had a upgrade to the 900/220 ?

ChrisD. · 24 Jul 2023 at 20:58

Furyus said:
Anyone currently on the BT 900/120 package? and had a upgrade to the 900/220 ?

Don't think any residential ISP is selling the 220 Mbps upload profile.

Furyus · 24 Jul 2023 at 21:02

ChrisD. said:
Don't think any residential ISP is selling the 220 Mbps upload profile.

Ah ok, I was only wondering as I've seen it advertised on their site. I'm wondering atm if I stick with BT which has been absolutely solid! @ £57pm or switch to Gigantic 900/900 @ @40pm.

ChrisD. · 24 Jul 2023 at 21:09

I mean, there really isn't any comparison there.

ChrisD. · 24 Jul 2023 at 21:10

Edit DP.

Caged · 24 Jul 2023 at 21:19

Who are Gigantic? Do you mean Giganet? Assuming that's on Cityfibre then you might be better off posting in the Cityfibre thread.

RSR · 25 Jul 2023 at 21:53

Cerberus Networks are on of the few who offer it, but it's not cheap

FTTP | Cerberus Public Website

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The 1.2Gbs / 1.8Gbs OR FTTP offering should be arriving in late Summer / Autumn which should bring a small bump

ChrisD. · 25 Jul 2023 at 22:14

RSR said:
Cerberus Networks are on of the few who offer it, but it's not cheap

FTTP | Cerberus Public Website

You are viewing this page as a . If you are a consumer, please click here. Cerberus ultrafast broadband services provide the fastest speeds available in the UK, at the most affordable prices.

www.cerberusnetworks.co.uk

The 1.2Gbs / 1.8Gbs OR FTTP offering should be arriving in late Summer / Autumn which should bring a small bump

Code:

£594.00 Installation
£204.00 Monthly with 12 Month Contract

RSR · 25 Jul 2023 at 22:15

I did say it's not cheap

FoxEye · 26 Jul 2023 at 05:16

n30_mkii said:
Has anyone had an underground bt cable replaced with fibre? I'm curious if they're able to effectively pull it through using the old cable or blow it through once the old cable is removed. It's the first property I've owned without an overhead line coming in. It was built in 1969, and seems to be run inside an armoured sleeve and then inside a metal pipe. The reason I ask is apparently fibre is coming to the area in the next eighteen months.

If you're direct in ground, don't get your hopes up.

Our area (town) is having FTTP rolled out right now. Direct In Ground properties (like ours) are being skipped. Not just done last, skipped entirely. "Not in scope."

BDUK then said it's nothing they can help with, because they only intervene where a commercial provider is not in the area. We're urban, too.

It's a real catch-22 problem. Commercial provider skipped us and BDUK say they can't help.

Realistically, we've been told it will probably take the better part of a decade for properties like ours to get another chance. And nothing is guaranteed, even then.

FoxEye · 26 Jul 2023 at 05:22

Caged said:
If you're direct in ground which 1969 and an armoured cable would suggest, then you will get the FTTP duct network installed to just outside your boundary. A cable will then be run to your house on the day of the installation.

Why would they do that for him, when down here they're just skipping Direct In Ground properties and writing them all off as uneconomical?

Roost · 26 Jul 2023 at 13:32

Has anyone had an install done recently? just wondering what the rough lead time is. My virgin contract is up at the beginning of Sept and don’t want to cancel that and then order fttp only to find out there’s a 5-6 week wait. Thanks

the-evaluator · 26 Jul 2023 at 13:37

FoxEye said:
Why would they do that for him, when down here they're just skipping Direct In Ground properties and writing them all off as uneconomical?

Strange. There's a lot of direct buried cables where I live and Openreach have been routinely putting in ducts and cable tube for FTTP installs. I had a bit of a fight with them to get my parents place done, theirs was the first direct buried but since then I've seen hundreds of houses have the same work done.

Which provider is deeming them not economical? It may be that the work required in your neck of the woods is more complex than here I suppose.