BT Infinity & FTTx Discussion

SeeKified said:
Putting a 20Mb service in place through FTTC wouldn't make sense as there are ADSL services that are "up to 20Mb" since years back...
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As long as there is LLU presence in the exchange, which, for a lot of people, there isn't.
 
[TW]Fox;20446566 said:
Well as I said I'm with O2 at the moment and am nothing but satisfied. I'd imagine BT Infinity can only be better in every possible way anyway.
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I think once live, I would say you will be live by march at the latest, December if you are very lucky.

Speed wise with your estimate I would say you are about 1.5-8km from he cab and will prob get a live speed of about 25mbit, all depends on the quality of your D-side (line from you to the cab).
 
[TW]Fox;20446566 said:
Well as I said I'm with O2 at the moment and am nothing but satisfied. I'd imagine BT Infinity can only be better in every possible way anyway.
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I would say you will be live by march at the latest, December if you are very lucky.

Speed wise with your estimate I would say you are about 1.5-8km from he cab and will prob get a live speed of about 25mbit, all depends on the quality of your D-side (line from you to the cab).
 
2 contractors for BT are digging out a nice rectangle shape next to the green cabinet over the road from me...

It's coming!
 
Definitely sure :) They're doing 3 or 4 cabinets in the area today. Watched them put the ducting in between the old cab and the fibre cab.

It's the Haverhill (EAHAV) exchange which was originally dated to go live in November, but it got delayed so it's now scheduled to go live in March'12 if I remember correctly.
 
Decided to go with Zen in the end. BT were estimating 31mbit down, 12mbit up. Engineer (very nice chap who I managed to persuade to fit the faceplate and modem at the back of my house upstairs at the cost of disabling all other BT points in the house, no big loss) plugs in the tester, I cross fingers and wait for sync... Much to my surprise, 83mbit down max, 30mbit up max. Of course I'm only getting 40/10 right now, but I'll look forward to when the faster options are available!
 
Very nice. Apparently though as adoption goes up, the crosstalk goes up too, which will end up reducing everyones speeds :( At least until they rollout the "vectoring" solution.
 
Hey guys I'm thinking of getting bt infinity but the only problem I have is the torrent side of things with the speeds getting cut down to like few kbs until midnight

What speeds do you get from torrents?
 
Depends. I can torrent at 4+ MB/s all day.

Perhaps their torrent throttling is area-based like Virgin Media's rather than individual-user-based?
 
You sure about that virgin media 50 and 100mbs service don't have no throttling what so ever but I know the cheaper packages do, as its peak times I'm hoping someone can show me the speeds that they get now on torrents
 
Ve33iE said:
You sure about that virgin media 50 and 100mbs service don't have no throttling what so ever but I know the cheaper packages do, as its peak times I'm hoping someone can show me the speeds that they get now on torrents
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They do not reduce speed if you download more than a certain amount but the entire Virgin Media network has area-based throttling of torrenting.
 
DirtyJester said:
If you read through the thread you will find quite a few people (myself included) have zero issues with torrents at any time of day or night :)
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Me included, its random depending on area usage. If you read through you will see I've said this already.

Getting a half decent VPN guarantee's no throttling at any point and also saves you from getting your net cut off (happened to me twice since 2000 by http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Energis).
Energis sent me a letter listing EVERY pirated file on my storage drive (including file size, date modified, location), few days later my net was disconnected, luckily they didn't take me to court :)!
Might still have the letters about somewhere, scared the **** out of me at the time. I'd hate to get caught these days.. things are more strict.

cp88 said:
They only throttle torrents when needed from my experience. I've had times where torrents have been throttled for 5 days straight and other times where i'm maxing out download and upload at peak times.

You'd have to be crazy to torrent stuff from a public torrent site anyway unless your using VPN..
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lozzd said:
Next thing you'll know they might cotton on to everyone using VPNs to get around the bandwidth limit and start rate limiting my VPN for work and then I'll be really annoyed.. I would just rather have a flat out amount to use, without throttling up or down, I think.
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Won't happen, ISP's hate torrents because of the number of connections they require, not the bandwidth alone. VPN sorts that out and leaves the hundreds of connections on the VPN server.


Whoops double post.
 
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ISPs don't care about the number of connections at all. Their routers work at the IP level, not TCP level.

Do you have any idea how much processing power and memory an ISP router would need to successfully operate at the TCP level? :eek:
 
Damn, I'm owned :(

So I don't understand why they throttle torrents, but not the other methods of pirating (megashares,rapidshare,usenet, etc..), surely not just because of the upload torrents require??

Still there is no way they would ever cap VPN, it would **** so many people over for work/college/uni.

NathanE said:
Do you have any idea how much processing power and memory an ISP router would need to successfully operate at the TCP level? :eek:
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a lot thinking about it now lol.
 
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