BT Infinity & FTTx Discussion

famasfilms · 20 Feb 2016 at 22:10

opethdisciple said:
Torrents are a poor way to measure your download speed.

I'm not trying to measure my download speed :confused:

DragonQ · 21 Feb 2016 at 09:49

X584EVA said:
By the way, I see you have a Xeon in your sig. What base clock are you running. 200? And what kind of temps are you getting. I'm soon to be switching out my rusty old i7 920 for an x5675 and hoping to push 4.2GHz on water with nice temps.

I was originally going to go with 191 MHz with turbo boost on (so basically 4.2 GHz for 3+ cores, 4.4 GHz for 1-2 cores) but my motherboard unfortunately employs throttling that prevents turbo boost from working correctly for more than a second or so. So I use 200 MHz with turbo boost off for a flat 4 GHz. I can't turn turbo boost on because the chip can't handle 4.6 GHz and I can't go above 202 MHz or so without BSODs.

I was given a tip to boost one of the voltages I haven't touched before to get the base clock a bit higher but in all honestly I don't know if I'd notice any difference.

themul · 21 Feb 2016 at 11:06

X584EVA said:
Yeah I know, I'm amazed they knocked £11 off the bill just with a simple quick phone call. Shows how much they are scared of you switching providers.

By the way, I see you have a Xeon in your sig. What base clock are you running. 200? And what kind of temps are you getting. I'm soon to be switching out my rusty old i7 920 for an x5675 and hoping to push 4.2GHz on water with nice temps.

My contract was up for renewal in February and my new contract is £19.85 per month with no real haggle so maybe I could have pushed them a litter further on there 80/20 Mb/s package.

Line Rental £17.99
Unlimited Anytime Calls Add-on £7.95
Includes anytime calls to UK landlines and discounts to UK mobiles
Broadband and Calls £30.00
Special offer discount £-10.15
Your special offer discount lasts for 12 months

I could have went with a cheaper option but no issues at all with BT and speed have remained steady at 76/18Mb/s over the last 12 months.

X584EVA · 21 Feb 2016 at 19:37

DragonQ said:
I was originally going to go with 191 MHz with turbo boost on (so basically 4.2 GHz for 3+ cores, 4.4 GHz for 1-2 cores) but my motherboard unfortunately employs throttling that prevents turbo boost from working correctly for more than a second or so. So I use 200 MHz with turbo boost off for a flat 4 GHz. I can't turn turbo boost on because the chip can't handle 4.6 GHz and I can't go above 202 MHz or so without BSODs.

I was given a tip to boost one of the voltages I haven't touched before to get the base clock a bit higher but in all honestly I don't know if I'd notice any difference.

Cool thanks. Yeah I think 4 - 4.2GHz is about the sweet spot for these old i7 and Xeons anyway. Anymore and you are just pushing silly voltages and temps for little real world performance gain.

stoofa · 22 Feb 2016 at 00:51

The £21/£22 is about as low as BT will go. They also charge you £3+ if you want callerID unless you're willing to pony up line rental in advance.

So I decided instead to move and had a painless switch over to TalkTalk where I got a speed connection slightly better than BT and I'm paying £26/month all in - 80/20, line rental, anytime calls equiv. for 12 months and caller ID

Cosimo · 23 Feb 2016 at 10:20

Been very quiet on the speed front. When are we likely to see an Infinity 3 (100MB +) product for FTTC or are we just going to be stuck on Infinity 2 for the foreseeable future?

bremen1874 · 23 Feb 2016 at 11:12

Cosimo said:
Been very quiet on the speed front. When are we likely to see an Infinity 3 (100MB +) product for FTTC or are we just going to be stuck on Infinity 2 for the foreseeable future?

I can't see them doing much. They're hopefully concentrating on improving the connections for the large number of people who still can only get poor ADSL connections.

I'd guess that there's a chance that existing FTTC areas will get left behind to some extent as newer areas get the latest technology..

DragonQ · 23 Feb 2016 at 11:46

Depends how easy it is to implement G.FAST I guess. If it doesn't require any changes beyond exchanges then I'd have thought it'd happen within the year. I'm just guessing though.

Avalon · 24 Feb 2016 at 11:35

List I have just read seems to have some other options:

Cisco (chipset firmware all 39m_B_38h3_24h):

C887VA-K9
C897VA-K9
CISCO887VA-K9
CISCO887VA-M-K9
CISCO887VA-SEC-K9
C887VAM-K9
C887VA-W-E-K9
C887VAM-W-E-K9
C887VA-V-K9
C887VA-V-W-E-K9
C887VA-CUBE-K9
C887VAG+7-K9
C887VAMG+7-K9
C887VAGW+7-E-K9
C887VA-WD-E-K9
C887VAG-4G-GA-K9
C897VAW-E-K9
C897VAM-W-E-K9
C897VAG-LTE-GA-k9
C897VAMG-LTE-GA-K9
EHWIC-VA-DSL-A
EHWIC-VA-DSL-M

Zyxel:

VMG8324-B10A
VMG8924 (Z-400UK)
VMG1312-B10A

Huawei:

HG633

Technicolor:

TG589Vac
TG789Vac
TG588v2

Kenton Comtrend:

VR-3030

Draytek (all firmware 05.07.06.0D.01.07):

Vigor 2860
Vigor 2860vn Plus
Vigor 2860n
Vigor 2860n Plus
Vigor 2860L
Vigor 2860Ln
Vigor 2860ac
Vigor 2760
Vigor 2760vn
Vigor 2760n
Vigor 130

The following are currently under evaluation:

Zxcel1312 Zxcel
c897VA-M Annex-M Cisco
Technicolor TG598VAC Thomson
Cisco 897 VAB Cisco
Huawei V2R2 Huawei
Cisco 897 NIM Module Cisco
Billion 2.32d.dm2 Billion
Juniper SRX210 Juniper
FritzboxGMBH AVM
Vigor 2860 Dratek
Technicolor 589v3 (Firmware: A2pv6F037g.d24c1)
Technicolor TG598VAC (Firmware: A2pv6F039o1.d26b)
Zyxel 1312 (Firmware: V1.00(AAJZ.5)b2_0331)

themul · 24 Feb 2016 at 21:16

stoofa said:
The £21/£22 is about as low as BT will go. They also charge you £3+ if you want callerID unless you're willing to pony up line rental in advance.

So I decided instead to move and had a painless switch over to TalkTalk where I got a speed connection slightly better than BT and I'm paying £26/month all in - 80/20, line rental, anytime calls equiv. for 12 months and caller ID

Not strictly true as I pay only £19.85 for 80/20 and unlimited calls at £7.95 so in total £27.80 and this includes caller ID which normally costs £1.75 but I got this for free.

I could have moved to save a little more but I have had no issues with BT and speeds over the last year have been excellent and no downtime either.

stoofa · 24 Feb 2016 at 22:18

themul said:
Not strictly true as I pay only £19.85 for 80/20 and unlimited calls at £7.95 so in total £27.80 and this includes caller ID which normally costs £1.75 but I got this for free.

I could have moved to save a little more but I have had no issues with BT and speeds over the last year have been excellent and no downtime either.

So you're only paying £7.95 for line rental and unlimited calls? Or is it line rental on top of that?

If ya can get it ya take it I guess.
BT would offer me nothing when I try to negotiate late last year. I was paying them £42/month for 80/20, line rental and the callerID. They just offered me £5 off taking it to £37.
As I could get all of the above from Talk Talk for £26/month it was a no brainer - instant saving of £16/month and the service has been every bit as good.

GregI · 26 Feb 2016 at 13:46

Anyone else having awful congestion issues last few days? Today it started around 12:30 when school must have gone out. Other days it's been 5/6 PM. At 10AM today it was perfect..

By congestion issues I mean awful speeds and awful pings.

Balb0wa · 26 Feb 2016 at 15:16

GregI said:
Anyone else having awful congestion issues last few days? Today it started around 12:30 when school must have gone out. Other days it's been 5/6 PM. At 10AM today it was perfect..

By congestion issues I mean awful speeds and awful pings.

My ping and speed was fine this morning, but web pages were loading slow, very odd.

GregI · 26 Feb 2016 at 17:11

So is the Vigor 2860 the recommended router for Infinity FTTC then? Currently have a Home Hub 5 but looking at alternatives.

El Jimben · 28 Feb 2016 at 21:49

Got Infinity installed a month ago & apart from the very first day, the speeds have been terrible. I was was given an estimate of 35Mb but I'm not even getting half that. Can anyone suggest from my line stats what the issue might be?

Data Rate: 5999 / 14999
Maximum Data Rate: 8490 / 38759
Noise Margin: 6.8 / 13.1
Line Attenuation: 36.3 / 29.4
Signal Attenuation: 0.0 / 0.0

I've tried getting hold of BT but I just can't get through :mad:

bremen1874 · 28 Feb 2016 at 21:57

Have you tried using the master socket's test port?

Is there any noise on the line.

Untimately if there's a problem you will need to speak to them. If the phones are busy you might have more luck trying their online support options.

MonsterMoshi · 1 Mar 2016 at 10:33

Our line has just been enabled for infinity with the superfast staffordshire project with estimated speeds of 65-80Mbs however I know for a fact that we are about 3.5-4km form the cabinet. Neighbours estimated FTTC speeds are between 4 and 1.6Mbs...
Every provider is telling me to order fibre and I can definitely get those speeds but I cant afford to be without broadband for days swapping and changing between suppliers to test it out. Anyone have any idea who I should speak to find out what is going on? All ISPs look at this same Openreach system but have no power to investigate it?

Jez · 1 Mar 2016 at 10:37

All of the providers sell the same wholesale openreach product so it wont differ regardless - that is why they all look at the same system.

Use the BT Wholesale checker on your line/address (dont use post code)
https://www.btwholesale.com/pages/s...unity/Coverage/ADSL_Availibility_Checker.html

MonsterMoshi · 1 Mar 2016 at 10:45

Thanks this data is incorrect though

With 3.5-4km to the cabinet these speeds are impossible...

#Chri5# · 1 Mar 2016 at 10:54

If you lookup your phone number here

https://www.telecom-tariffs.co.uk/codelook.htm

you can then click the Exchange name and there's a link to the all the cabinets on that exchange. If you then click the cabinet you are connected to, it'll give you a rough position of your cabinet - does that match up with where you think the cab is?