BT Infinity & FTTx Discussion

rotor said:
All the BT/OpenReach manholes near my house are being replaced. I've only noticed because first they had a big X spray-painted on them, and then I'd come back from work and they'd all be new, freshly concreted around. There didn't appear to be anything wrong with the previous ones, so could this be a sign that G.Fast is coming to me? They did the one right in front of my house yesterday (the workers were gone by the time I got home), and the one in front of the cabinet was done last week.

Has anyone else had this and knows what's going on?
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It will just be replacement of worn out covers, the might have been reported as being difficult to lift out or whatever. No reason for chamber refurbishments to have anything to do with G.fast. Potentially they've been tidied up and made larger for FTTP and the physical bracketry that the splitter nodes clip to, but hard to tell. You could always lift one up and take a photo.

nightmare99 said:
I know somebody about to move but the cabinet is at capacity for FTTC, is there still an openreach enquiries email address where you can find out if capacity is being added otherwise its just a case of waiting for somebody to disconnect.
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A cabinet at capacity will always be upgraded, it just might take a while. It's not in Openreach's interest to have a waiting list when the expensive work of getting power and fibre installed has been completed.
 
Caged said:
It will just be replacement of worn out covers, the might have been reported as being difficult to lift out or whatever. No reason for chamber refurbishments to have anything to do with G.fast. Potentially they've been tidied up and made larger for FTTP and the physical bracketry that the splitter nodes clip to, but hard to tell. You could always lift one up and take a photo.
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Thanks, that sounds reasonable, although there was absolutely nothing wrong with the existing covers. There is one in my driveway and an OpenReach guy was out a couple of months ago and he had no problem lifting it, and I had a peek inside then and it looked very clean and tidy. Hey-ho, I'll wait and see if anything comes of it. If they're going to offer FTTP I'm going to be very happy.
 
A cabinet at capacity will always be upgraded, it just might take a while. It's not in Openreach's interest to have a waiting list when the expensive work of getting power and fibre installed has been completed.
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But no way to tell if it will be a month, six months or a year?
 
Holy cow. £75 for a new Master socket I've just been told. How on earth can they justify that?

I understand the cost of the engineer visit, but £75 just for a new socket!
 
platypus said:
Holy cow. £75 for a new Master socket I've just been told. How on earth can they justify that?

I understand the cost of the engineer visit, but £75 just for a new socket!
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I just got an OR engineer to do it when out fault fixing something else. Cuppa tea and some biscuits and he was more than happy to run a length of cable and stick a new socket in.
 
kindernotasurprise said:
I just got an OR engineer to do it when out fault fixing something else. Cuppa tea and some biscuits and he was more than happy to run a length of cable and stick a new socket in.
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Yeah this is likely what I'll do - in our previous house I had him install the master socket under the stairs even though he told me he wasn't really supposed to. I had the floors up and it was easy to run the cable though, a cup of tea and just being nice swung him :). I think BT wanted to book the charge up front so I'll just get the engineer round and see.
 
I moved both of my master sockets to the loft where the patch panel and router is, have had BT out a few times and they have not said a word :) Just make sure you use genuine BT parts and do a proper job and the engineers I have had out recently have not seemed bothered.
 
We're moving to a new build at the end of June. The postcode is SO16 0BJ, using by postcode check I can see that ultrafast 2 is available. Is this fairly accurate? I'm currently on VM 200/20 so would love the fastest upload available.
 
MG42Maniac said:
We're moving to a new build at the end of June. The postcode is SO16 0BJ, using by postcode check I can see that ultrafast 2 is available. Is this fairly accurate? I'm currently on VM 200/20 so would love the fastest upload available.
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A quick check seems to indicate FTTP is available so you should be good (and subjectively, better than virgin) , If you know the exact address try it in: https://www.btwholesale.com/includes/adsl/adsl.htm?s_cid=ws_furls_adslchecker and see what the result is.

It might be worth getting the developer to confirm in writing what Internet access there is. I made the fatal assumption with mine that new builds will have fast internet, cue being stuck on 4.5mb ADSL with low chance of change until USO :mad: fortunately for others any development started from late 2016 onwards should have decent internet.
 
If any of the neighbouring new builds are already occupied and have an active line, checking their street number on the checker will give you a good idea. I wouldn't rely on results from the next street over (even if part of the same new estate) as stupid decisions are often made by developers.
 
Has anyone successfully got BT to price match rival companies? Despite being on Infinity 2 my line just refuses to go any faster than 55mb. Vodafone will offer same promised speed for £10 cheaper but my contact doesn't expire till November.
 
After what seems like forever I finally got my new line at my new place activated yesterday.

I'm 250m by road from the cab, but the line will be more than that, I'm imagine at least 300m. I wasn't expecting full sync at all. But the line is super clean with virtually no noise. Max attainable is >100Mb! I'm very happy with that. The old place was a shorter line and much worse sync, a very noisy line.

Seeing those stats makes me think the G.fast estimates I posted above are very much worthwhile.... :D

Stats:

Code: 
xdslcmd info --stats
xdslcmd: ADSL driver and PHY status
Status: Showtime
Retrain Reason:    0
Last initialization procedure status:    0
Max:    Upstream rate = 37312 Kbps, Downstream rate = 100740 Kbps
Bearer:    0, Upstream rate = 20000 Kbps, Downstream rate = 79987 Kbps

Link Power State:    L0
Mode:            VDSL2 Annex B
VDSL2 Profile:        Profile 17a
TPS-TC:            PTM Mode(0x0)
Trellis:        U:ON /D:ON
Line Status:        No Defect
Training Status:    Showtime
        Down        Up
SNR (dB):    12.0        17.4
Attn(dB):    14.1        0.0
Pwr(dBm):    13.4        4.4
            VDSL2 framing
            Bearer 0
MSGc:        18        20
B:        239        239
M:        1        1
T:        23        64
R:        0        0
S:        0.0955        0.3819
L:        20104        5028
D:        1        1
I:        240        120
N:        240        240
            Counters
            Bearer 0
OHF:        33828563        919169
OHFErr:        5        2
RS:        0        1931367
RSCorr:        0        0
RSUnCorr:    0        0

            Bearer 0
HEC:        57        0
OCD:        1        0
LCD:        1        0
Total Cells:    12136179        0
Data Cells:    1984346956        0
Drop Cells:    0
Bit Errors:    0        0

ES:        4        2
SES:        0        0
UAS:        8470        8470
AS:        55949

            Bearer 0
INP:        0.00        0.00
INPRein:    0.00        0.00
delay:        0        0
PER:        1.65        6.13
OR:        116.09        33.91
AgR:        80103.09    20033.74

Bitswap:    18542/18546        1/1

Total time = 17 hours 53 min 39 sec
FEC:        0        0
CRC:        5        2
ES:        4        2
SES:        0        0
UAS:        8470        8470
LOS:        0        0
LOF:        0        0
LOM:        0        0
Latest 15 minutes time = 8 min 39 sec
FEC:        0        0
CRC:        0        0
ES:        0        0
SES:        0        0
UAS:        0        0
LOS:        0        0
LOF:        0        0
LOM:        0        0
Previous 15 minutes time = 15 min 0 sec
FEC:        0        0
CRC:        0        0
ES:        0        0
SES:        0        0
UAS:        0        0
LOS:        0        0
LOF:        0        0
LOM:        0        0
Latest 1 day time = 17 hours 53 min 39 sec
FEC:        0        0
CRC:        5        2
ES:        4        2
SES:        0        0
UAS:        8470        8470
LOS:        0        0
LOF:        0        0
LOM:        0        0
Previous 1 day time = 0 sec
FEC:        0        0
CRC:        0        0
ES:        0        0
SES:        0        0
UAS:        0        0
LOS:        0        0
LOF:        0        0
LOM:        0        0
Since Link time = 15 hours 32 min 27 sec
FEC:        0        0
CRC:        5        2
ES:        4        2
SES:        0        0
UAS:        0        0
LOS:        0        0
LOF:        0        0
LOM:        0        0
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I see on the Openreach dsl checker I can get FTTP on demand,any ideas what that would cost for an install and the 1st year?
 
Depends where the aggregation node is and what needs doing. But from recent threads on other forums, the install costs are £lol.
 
Oh right,silly money eh,ah well.

Cardiff is getting FTTP rolled out as one of the 5 cities in the initial programme I think so maybe that'll hit into my area a little down the line.
 
FTTPoD makes absolutely no sense as the install costs alone are frequently higher than the entire 36 months of a gigabit leased line contract.
 
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