BT Internet Sucks

[tuffty747]

"Ahhhh" - Sits back and relaxes while basking in the glory of being with virgin media...



Nah, not much better, back in the days when it was NTL, it was so so so bad!

 

[daz]

Guys, how large is a youtube music video on average?

~10MB I would have thought.

 

[Mattus]

BT is awful, we ran over the cap, something like 60 gigs and the bloke that phoned us up said we must be downloading stuff pretty much all the time, which tbh isn't true and they cut our speed.

Yeah, that's rubbish. Quite unnerving to realise that assuming an 8Mbps connection which downloads at 800KB/s, downloading constantly for 24 hours would run up 67,500 MB! Thats 2,092,500 MB a month, or 2,043 GB. This is why ISPs have caps

 

[Scythe]

you get what you pay for...

True, but I'm with O2 and pay £10 for 16mbit unlimited and i get 14mbit .

Don't know if there is a FUP or not but I haven't noticed any throttling.

 

[C64]

bt internet has 200 day retention giganews even though it's capped at 1.4

 

[Baz]

Been with Pipex for 7 years through 3 addresses, and to my good fortune when they cocked up something last year, I now get 8Mb (actual is 5Mb ) true unlimited from what I can understand, for 17 sheets a month

 

[Rainmaker]

Ah. It makes me glad I'm on LLU. 24 meg ADSL2+, actual connection speed 22 megs. Throughput 2.3 MB/sec (> 2,300 KB/sec) and I pull up to around 500GB a month all for £24 (which will drop to £22 when I move to Be Pro). Does UK Online/Sky/Easynet care? Nope. IPStream is an epic fail lol

 

[Azagoth]

I work far too long hours, even though I am highly paid, as a corporate lawyer

Then why not use some of your considerable wages to upgrade to a decent ISP that doesn't limit your usage as much?

 

[Pho]

BT is awful, we ran over the cap, something like 60 gigs and the bloke that phoned us up said we must be downloading stuff pretty much all the time, which tbh isn't true and they cut our speed.

Guys, how large is a youtube music video on average?

I found some post on videohelp how someone downloaded a video and it was 467kb/s:

Input #0, mov,mp4,m4a,3gp,3g2,mj2, from 'youtube.mp4':
Duration: 00:04:04.6, start: 0.000000, bitrate: 467 kb/s
Stream #0.0(und): Audio: mpeg4aac, 44100 Hz, stereo
Stream #0.1(und): Video: h264, yuv420p, 480x360, 29.97 tb(r)


So a dodgy calculation later using Google calculator (assuming a song length of 3 minutes 57 seconds):

((467 * 60) * 3.57) * kilobits = 12.21 megabytes

... or just take Daz's answer .

 

[Pho]

edit: dupe

 

[[TR]SweetSpotOz]

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[[TR]SweetSpotOz]

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[Things change I've changed]

It's easy to run up 25GB in a month - that's really nothing if you watch lots of video, etc. There are plenty of legal ways to be using that much bandwidth - iPlayer, game demos, ISOs, legal music, podcast and movie downloads. Besides, how is it relevant if you're a pirate? The discussion is about ISPs who brand their service as 'unlimited' when it isn't, whatever you choose to download on it.

True, I don't even use my TV any more, I use Iplayer and 4OD most of the time, I have a stack of other places that I stream legal videos from, game-trailers, youtube etc, plus I use 192/320kbs radio pretty much all the time, what I want to know is what on earth are the isp's going to do when everyone is streaming HD TV over the net, which tbh is going to happen, the speed of broadband seems to be increasing all the time but at the same time they are decreasing the bandwidth and traffic shaping people more than ever.

 

[[TR]SweetSpotOz]

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[Things change I've changed]

They just aren't.

There is no capacity for anywhere near "everyone" to stream HDTV over the net.

dude, it's going to happen, look at the way the Internet is evolving, with people like me that use the Internet as the main source of the video/music entertainment, you wouldn't of even dreamt that was possible ten years ago, I'm telling you mate, in the future were all be streaming HD over the net for TV services, well imo anyway, basically what I see happening atm is the Internet is evolving way faster than the isp's themselves,

The days of the main demographic 'logging in' and checking a few emails and looking at a few web pages (basically the isp's dream customer) are numbered tbh, more and more people are turning to the Internet for thier source of entertainment, legal entertainment, and that uses up lots of bandwidth, isp's are eventually going to have to fall in line and offer larger amounts of bandwidth and limit their aggressive traffic shaping.

 

[Bean0]

It doesn't even have to be HD, there are worries about what would happen if BBC start streaming BBC1.

The biggest danger for broadband providers with live TV is that if an event is popular, and more than 3 or 4% of their customers choose to watch it at the same time, then all the capacity into the provider from exchanges will be swamped.

ThinkBroadBand

 

[BigglesPiP]

If I had the choice here, I'd be on Virgin in a second.

But alas, ADSL is the only option, of which BT is best, due to the way BT share the pipes with other ISPs.

 

[Rainmaker]

...of which BT is best, due to the way BT share the pipes with other ISPs.

LOL, whatever you say mate

 

[Psyk]

Yes BT does suck. It sucks even more when you're sharing between 16 people each paying £10 a month for a pretty basic 8Mbit connection. But that's probably more down to being ripped off by the landlords than BT.

 

[BigglesPiP]

LOL, whatever you say mate

There are a set number of lines running to your street, each one can carry x connections.

AOL and that lot are all piled on the the 1st few lines, filling them, BT customers are shared equally amongst the remaining lines.



Don't get me wrong, BT is ****! I get a 3Mbps connection at best here. And it used to be a lot worse.