Building Oblivion

jimjam81 said:
Anyone played the that total conversion mod nehrim for oblivion, done by some german developers and if so is it any good? Also was the middle earth mod cancelled?
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Playing it atm, and imo is better than Oblivion - addresses quite a few issues with vanilla oblivion. Effectively a new game as a completely different world! German speaking with English subtitles - not really been an issue.

Am Level 21 (little time for gaming these days), and have only explored 1/3 of the map, with pretty much every cave, ruin, castle etc a different layout. Venture too far, and monsters kill you easily - areas have been designed for lvlX-Y; doesn't stop you, just your progress is a lot slower.
 
jimjam81 said:
Anyone played the that total conversion mod nehrim for oblivion, done by some german developers and if so is it any good? Also was the middle earth mod cancelled?
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Oh damn I meant to give that a go the next time I clean installed. I tried it but I think my attempts at installing QTP and so on corrupted it. Supposed to be pretty good.

Got all the mods installed that I wanted from the first page now. Mostly just all the stability stuff, unofficial patches and alluring bottles. Gonna leave texture packs and custom body mods well alone I think.

Installed HUD status bars but I think I'm gonna pass on deadly reflexes... maybe another time.

Wish I understood how the hell to use Git though :p
 
Hmm, it looks a bit weird but its nice to have a proper enemy health/fatigue bar instead that horrendous guessing game you have to play with the current semicircle. Just wish I could figure out how to place it off to the side not over the crosshair in the middle.
 
Cool, may have to give Nehrim a go soon. I made a backup of Vanilla GOTY Oblivion as soon as downloaded as it saves S**tloads of hassle if you mess up with mod installation.

I also found the diagram below helpful when installing mods, espcially the installation order. Maybe worth putting on front page sldsmkd, your guide is very good but a picture can speak a thousand words

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sldsmkd said:
Update on 4GB Patch. This is indeed the trick to stabilising Oblivion, the base game will crash whenever more than 1.8GB is used (easy to do with mods). If you have the disk version you are lucky, the patch works fine.

If you have the Steam version the patch will not work. There is a workaround if you own a copy from Steam, but it's borderline against the rules here so I will only say look at OBSE/src/obse/loader_common/EXEChecksum.cpp line 224.
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I've just had a chance to test this by running Oblivion in windowed mode with Task Manager running. It has fixed both my framerate issues and crash to desktops and it's fairly easy to see why.

A fresh game loading into the Imperial Docks area with QTP3/RAEVWD/Better Cities/Full Sliders and a bunch of other stuff uses around 1.7GB (without people replacers etc loaded), as soon as I zoned into the tunnel RAM usage hit 2GB. This would have been an instant crash to desktop on an unpatched Oblivion. Fast Travelling to the Dock area of Anvil took memory up to 2.4GB.

I took out Streamline as the guy who made OSR recommends against it, left the framerate capped at 30fps (enough for me and gives the game engine time to breathe for handling housekeeping/ai etc), did a full install of Better Cities with all districts and open cities. I also used OSR's heap replacement, using mode 6.

Framerates seemed to hover between 20-30fps in the Docks, though improved once everything loaded up. 30fps constant everywhere else. I suspect a faster CPU would have better framerates here, my i7 920 is only moderately overclocked to keep power/noise/heat down.

(WITH FULL SLIDERS)
 
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sldsmkd said:
I actually don't bother with it now, Wrye Bash seems to cover most of the functions.
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I mostly just wanted it to save a version before I started putting in gameplay mods. Doesn't matter now. If I had it on steam I probably wouldn't need to bother at all as I could just copy the entire folder somewhere but retail is a pain to reinstall...

Oh well, gonna try without FCOM for now. Been a while since I played Oblivion without overhaul mods.
 
Thanks for the info on total conversion mod nehrim for oblivion :)
I just got it and it's very easy to get it up and running. But I do wish someone would get the GPU working more
as my GTX295 is only at 50% so I only get 110fps avg inside places and 50fps outside :(
 
Graphics and bug fixing wise? No I think sld pretty much covered all the bases there.

The new Frostcrag in Frostcrag Reborn is awesome and I got a nasty surprise when I turned up there again and forgot to turn the anti-theft system on and found it full of bandits :p

The 1 thing I'd say that should've been included is Harvest. Alters the plant once you harvest it so you can clearly see it has been 'picked'.
The alternative is the Herbalism mod which does the same but also harvests for you automatically because as any budding alchemist will tell you, picking up every plant in the Arcane University garden is EXTREMELY tedious, whereas Herbalism does it for you if you sprint around it.

Oh and it needs a Color Map Mod too. Darn applies colour but only to the local map. Color Map Mod does it for the 'world' map too which makes it look about a 1000x better.
 
Problem already I install Wyre Bash but I can't find it?

Also when I try and move the OBMM it just stays in the Oblivion folder.

Steam copy BTW.
 
CaptainRAVE said:
Think i will probably go through the instructions from the first few posts. Is there anything noteworthy missing?
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I'll be doing a major revamp this weekend (probably). This is what I am running currently:

Bain Packages:
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000 - ==0000 Pre Install==
++ 001 - 0001 Core Meshes (PyFFI).7z (F953ECF4) (Installed)
++ 002 - 0002 Core Official DLC (clean).7z (B4D8D620) (Installed)
003 - ==0100 OBSE==
++ 004 - 0101 (OBSE) Elys Universal Silent Voice 0.93.rar (4249925D) (Installed)
++ 005 - 0102 (OBSE) Fast Exit 2.0.rar (33FF14FA) (Installed)
++ 006 - 0103 (OBSE) OSR 4.1.24.rar (028292DD) (Installed)
++ 007 - 0104 (OBSE) WeOCPS.rar (6FD1583E) (Installed)
++ 008 - 0110 OBGE_Core-30054-3-0-1.rar (2CCFE406) (Installed)
++ 009 - 0111 OBGE_Standalone_Effects-30054.rar (AF6AE740) (Installed)
++ 010 - 0112 OBGE_Parallax_Occlusion_Mapping-30054-3-0-2.rar (F8A6A029) (Installed)
++ 012 - 0115 OBGE Liquid Water-37825.rar (165A8213) (Installed)
++ 013 - 0116 OBGE_Luminance_HDR-30054-3-0-2.7z (0BA8543D) (Installed)
++ 014 - 0120 Shader Config.rar (8A3BDB08) (Installed)
015 - ==0200 Large Texture Packs & Mesh Replacers==
++ 016 - 0201 QTP3 Redimized (PyFFI).rar (89C89281) (Installed)
++ 017 - 0202 Bomrets Texture Pack for SI (PyFFI).rar (56150F5F) (Installed)
++ 018 - 0203 Color & Normal Maps.rar (DC352D69) (Installed)
019 - ==0300 Unofficial Patches==
++ 020 - 0301 Unofficial Oblivion Patch 3.2.0.rar (1D412E9E) (Installed)
++ 021 - 0302 Unofficial Shivering Isles Patch 1.40.rar (C1027DD0) (Installed)
++ 022 - 0303 Unofficial Mods Patch 1.5.rar (E5FDF0AD) (Installed)
++ 023 - 0304 Unofficial Patch Supplementals 334.rar (638D90F4) (Installed)
024 - ==0400 RAEVWD Meshes==
++ 025 - 0401 RAEVWD 1.9.2.rar (4F18DDCB) (Installed)
++ 026 - 0402 RAEVWD SI Edition 1.7.rar (BEB40E67) (Installed)
027 - ==0500 World Textures==
++ 030 - 0503 Improved Signs Complete (PyFFI).rar (70F6883B) (Installed)
++ 031 - 0504 Improved Doors, Trees & Flora (PyFFI).rar (BDE5556D) (Installed)
++ 032 - 0510 Improved Bravil.rar (FB922525) (Installed)
++ 033 - 0511 Improved Bruma.rar (5ECF321F) (Installed)
++ 034 - 0512 Improved Chorrol.rar (4970BFE2) (Installed)
++ 035 - 0513 Improved Skingrad.rar (B39FF1CF) (Installed)
++ 036 - 0520 Koldorns Ayleid Ruins Textures.rar (EA8F010A) (Installed)
037 - ==0600 Environment Improvers==
++ 038 - 0602 Enhanced Vegetation.rar (3E45B36F) (Installed)
++ 039 - 0603 Alive Waters (PyFFI) (Clean).rar (8FEF6FE5) (Installed)
++ 040 - 0605 Natural Habitat (PyFFI).rar (84A203AC) (Installed)
++ 041 - 0606 Rainbows in Tamriel (PyFFI) (Clean).rar (FC197633) (Installed)
++ 042 - 0607 Night Skies Combo.rar (ECF6DFF4) (Installed)
++ 043 - 0608 Clocks of Cyrodiil (PyFFI) (Clean).rar (ACD6CC7F) (Installed)
044 - ==0700 New Areas==
++ 045 - 0701 Valenwood 1.02.0 Full (PyFFI).rar (CCEA0B45) (Installed)
++ 046 - 0702 ElsweyrAnequinaV3 Dec2010 (PyFFI).rar (C0F3E12A) (Installed)
047 - ==0800 Unique Landscapes==
++ 048 - 0800 Unique Landscapes (PyFFI).rar (35696FBD) (Installed)
049 - ==0900 Places==
++ 050 - 0901 Tonas Mods Store.rar (F9D6B686) (Installed)
++ 051 - 0902 Glenvar Castle V2_10 (clean) (PyFFI).rar (BC185368) (Installed)
++ 052 - 0903 Frostcrag Reborn (PyFFI).rar (8C8962D3) (Installed)
++ 053 - 0904 Kvatch Rebuilt 1.1 (clean) (PyFFI).rar (40C2665C) (Installed)
++ 054 - 0905 Elsweyr Plantations.rar (0629CD54) (Installed)
++ 055 - 0905 Reaper's Anequina's Manor V_3 (Clean) (PyFFI).rar (E078A7E8) (Installed)
++ 056 - 0950 Compat Kvatch Frostcrag.rar (9910F284) (Installed)
++ 057 - 0951 Frostcrag Reborn - Snowdale patch v1_3-13834.7z (6778B185) (Installed)
058 - ==1000 Better Cities==
++ 059 - 1001 Better Cities Permanent Resources 4.9.0 (PyFFI).rar (C558FA6A) (Installed)
++ 060 - 1002 Better Cities Resources 4.9.6 (PyFFI).rar (594BE1CB) (Installed)
++ 061 - 1003 Better Cities 4.9.7 (PyFFI).rar (FFA18112) (Installed)
++ 062 - 1004 Let the People Drink 2.5 (PyFFI).rar (16FF5E2B) (Installed)
063 - ==1100 Final Environment Tweaks==
++ 064 - 1101 All Natural 1.31 (PyFFI).rar (8572F1B9) (Installed)
++ 065 - 1102 Animated Window Lighting System 5.5.3 (PyFFI).rar (A45457C5) (Installed)
++ 066 - 1103 Immersive Interiors (PyFFI).rar (F25EE7E3) (Installed)
++ 067 - 1104 Ambient_Dungeons 1.3.1.7z (462A6069) (Installed)
068 - ==1200 RAEVWD Additional Textures==
++ 070 - 1202 RAEVWD Elsweyr Anequina V2.rar (C24FEB03) (Installed)
++ 071 - 1203 RAEVWD Koldorn Ayleid Ruins.rar (68860D68) (Installed)
072 - ==1500 Items==
++ 073 - 1501 Alluring Potions & Wine (PyFFI).rar (FF8E070F) (Installed)
++ 074 - 1502 Book Jackets (PyFFI).rar (A635A3F7) (Installed)
++ 075 - 1503 Glittering Prizes (PyFFI).rar (ED88EDD2) (Installed)
++ 076 - 1504 Improved Amulets And Rings (PyFFI).rar (8B4E44D4) (Installed)
++ 077 - 1505 Improved Fruits Vegetables and Meats (PyFFI).rar (50789ED0) (Installed)
078 - ==2000 Races==
++ 079 - 2001 Rens Beauty Pack.rar (6EB82CDC) (Installed)
++ 080 - 2002 High Imperials.rar (0910E076) (Installed)
++ 081 - 2003 Elves of Lineage II.rar (9858D3C0) (Installed)
++ 082 - 2099 Tamriel NPCs Revamped v106.rar (2B5019AD) (Installed)
083 - ==2100 Body Replacers==
++ 084 - 2101 HGEC.rar (C11B5CFB) (Installed)
++ 085 - 2103 Maximum Compat Skeletons 1.0.rar (29DF888F) (Installed)
++ 086 - 2104 Hires Textures HGEC.rar (C5858DBA) (Installed)
++ 087 - 2105 NoMaaM BBB Animation Replacer 3.0.rar (7B0A5D60) (Installed)
088 - ==2200 Clothing & Armour==
++ 089 - 2201 Undies Underneath! 4.4.7.rar (9DE4B8CC) (Installed)
++ 090 - 2202 EVE HGEC BBB Stock Equipment.rar (EC4B334B) (Installed)
++ 091 - 2203 Capes and Cloaks.zip (A36DF99B) (Installed)
++ 092 - 2210 Adelina.rar (1F877887) (Installed)
++ 100 - 2210 R18PN Eisen Platte Armor.rar (E975496C) (Installed)
++ 101 - 2210 R18PN Leere Armor W.rar (5AEFCFEA) (Installed)
102 - ==3000 Gameplay Changers==
++ 103 - 3001 Alternative Start 1.66.rar (56A913BC) (Installed)
++ 104 - 3002 Quest Award Leveller.rar (9ED3C3EC) (Installed)
++ 105 - 3003 Reneers Guard Overhaul.rar (D269BF91) (Installed)
106 - ==Last==
 
Murray said:
Problem already I install Wyre Bash but I can't find it?

Also when I try and move the OBMM it just stays in the Oblivion folder.

Steam copy BTW.
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Wrye Bash is in %Oblivion%\Mopy
OBMM needs to be in Oblivion folder

My recommendation has changed to use Wrye Bash wherever possible, wait until the weekend for a rewrite / new guide.
 
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