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@1:38, sassette player Soundwave. My very first Transformers toy way back when.
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I am loving the G1 Shockwave though! Always my fave alongside Cliffjumper but we all know they'll be in it for like 10 seconds 
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Looks much better than the first trailer and yea, reminds me a lot of G1. Getting excited for this now.
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Oh no, not another one of these More moronic Michael Bay CGI garbage, ugh!
More moronic Michael Bay CGI garbage, ugh!
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Michael Bay is just producing.
This actually looks competently made!
This actually looks competently made!
The lucky bugger, my mum searched high and low for a Soundwave toy for me as a child. I ended up with some cheap knock off, which funnily enough, could actually be used as a AM/FM radio.
I was shocked when I saw the latest trailer, I could actually recognise most of the Transformers! Instead of them being twisted shapes of black metal.
I have no hope for this movie, I gave up after no.2 in the franchise. But it's a step in the right direction.
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What do we reckon? I am getting a Ramjet/Thrust/Dirge, Skywarp and Thundercracker vibe?
Oh no, not another one of these
Bay isn't directing, which is guaranteed improvement.
He is? That I didn't know.
Still; if him stepping down to a producers role results in a better Transformers film, imagine how good a Transformers film could be if he were gone completely!
As Jean Luc Picard would say; make it so!
I suspect it will be quite average but I'll go see it ofc 
Bumblebee always seems to be a little victim. I like that he is smaller at last.
Hugely retro feel indeed.
Isn't that starscream in there too?
One that turns into a harrier? I have no clue who that's meant to be. Very G1 though.
Lol i changed my tune after 6 months
Bumblebee always seems to be a little victim. I like that he is smaller at last.
Hugely retro feel indeed.
Isn't that starscream in there too?
One that turns into a harrier? I have no clue who that's meant to be. Very G1 though.
Lol i changed my tune after 6 months
The jet in the trailer is Blitzwing, somewhat confusingly this movie doesn't throw out all the events of the previous movies. Apparently Megatron is on ice in this still, the soldiers you see are Sector 7, and there's bound to be other things connected to the other movies foreshadowing events that we've seen. Starscream isn't in the movie as he was in three of the previous movies and they wanted to bring in new characters.
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I love how you can actually see what's going on when they're fighting, rather than it being a massive blurfest like the previous movies. And they look like they've actually got mass too (Pacific Rim 2 take note).
Yeah the previous movies were too confusing, the first one especially was bad for its inclose blur of metal flashing past your face. The rest of the movies they brought in a lot of generic silver\grey decepticons that looked identical so it looked a lot of the time like it was the same character being killed over and over (basically was as it seemed to be the same model used). This looks like they all have a different look so should be easier to tell who is who.
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OG Soundwave chuckles at your meh!
OG Soundwave chuckles at your meh!
I mean honestly, what was so hard about going with that look in the previous movies instead of the tangled mess of metal we got? I get that bay didn't want any unrealistic "mass shifting" transformations ala megatron transforming into a gun or soundwave turning into a radio, but they seemed to try to do it too realistically and it just made the robots incredibly complex and that's probably one reason why there wasn't as many unique robots in the movies.
There was a story doing the rounds years back that one of their rendering servers basically blew up trying to render devastator in the second movie, apparently it had a bunch of radeon 2900xt cards as they were good at the render technique that they were using in the movie.
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I dunno. A slight redesign might have been ok if they'd at least made them look easily distinguishable from each other.
I do agree with him not going with the mass shifting thing. That was always kinda dumb tbh.
I do agree with him not going with the mass shifting thing. That was always kinda dumb tbh.
The problem with doing it the way bay did though was they were limited by the sizes of the planes\cars etc they chose as the vehicle mode of the robot. If they had done mass shifting to some degree they would have had some flexibility in relation to a transformers robot size in comparison to its vehicle size. But he was very strict about that so a lot of them ended up at odd sizes vs their cartoon counterparts.