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Yes, the cards you bought before the gpu price hike are, years later, still highly competitive tech. Time to start running that bath and fetching the razor blades.
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But Jensen, how fast is it ?
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Battlefield games are quite fast paced. I don't really care whether my team mates eye reflects the muzzle flash of the tank shooting at us. Seems a bit of a waste of resources. Games like that need higher fps and smoother gameplay. I don't spend much time looking down at a puddle for the reflections
You mean you don't stare lovingly into your teammates eye's while playing? You monster.
I agree, that side of things isn't exactly something you would notice. What I did find very impressive however were the fresnel reflections off the windows - that was a very noticeable improvement over the cube maps.
Yes, the cards you bought before the gpu price hike are, years later, still highly competitive tech. Time to start running that bath and fetching the razor blades.
"Sadly" because even a pair of them don't really do what I want at 4k given the sad state of SLI (and almost complete lack of SLI implementation in VR) and I was hoping for something worth upgrading to at a realistic price. Not "sadly" because they still remain relatively decent cards!
Battlefield games are quite fast paced. I don't really care whether my team mates eye reflects the muzzle flash of the tank shooting at us
Yeah I think Metro was a better example of new tech. I think ray tracing with better shadows will be great for games like Metro, Fallout.
Honestly I don't think that's true. The immersion in VR comes from the HMD cutting you off from your surroundings, from the head-tracking, and from the stereoscopic image, not from the fidelity of the visuals. Most VR versions of existing games have the details scaled back in an attempt to hit that magic 90 fps, plus the effective pixels-per-inch of the displays is so much lower than a monitor. And a lot of VR-only games have terrible graphics. I'd go as far to say the visuals in VR are generally pretty awful, and yet it's still very immersive.
What VR needs, especially with the 2nd gen headsets arriving, is the fillrate and shading performance to keep framerates at 90 so ASW/ASR doesn't kick-in. A few extra raytraced effects would just be icing on the cake.
I don't think we disagree... I'm not inferring that VR needs it to be immersive, just that it would add to the overall experience perhaps a bit more than it does to flat screen games. And just to qualify that, I'm also mainly thinking next gen where the resolution of the headsets would be more likely to be at a point where you would notice the smaller details like that more readily.
Basically my thought is that in a next gen VR headset, it's more likely to nag at you that the lighting/reflections/shadows are wrong than when just looking at a monitor as VR is by it's nature more immersive in the first place. All the small details being correct will just help build that level of reality, even on a subconscious level.
To that end, I do indeed hope that ray tracing does start to gain traction from this point... everything has to start somewhere. I, for one, however don't think it is currently worth the entry price - doesn't mean it still won't be worth it a few years from now.
Basically my thought is that in a next gen VR headset, it's more likely to nag at you that the lighting/reflections/shadows are wrong than when just looking at a monitor as VR is by it's nature more immersive in the first place. All the small details being correct will just help build that level of reality, even on a subconscious level.
To that end, I do indeed hope that ray tracing does start to gain traction from this point... everything has to start somewhere. I, for one, however don't think it is currently worth the entry price - doesn't mean it still won't be worth it a few years from now.
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That GTX1080 score is with the GTX1080 11gbps card. The normal GTX1080 came with 10gbs ram and at 2190/2762 does 8349
https://www.3dmark.com/spy/397173
(yes the benchmark is mine
and last time checked the Firestrike GPU scores of that card weren't beaten by any other 1080)Who knows -_-
The Linux driver for the Vega 20 is already out, and we know is 21TFlop card possibly with GCN 5.5 But after that AMD refuses to comment or say anything else.....
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We don’t care about that now we have our raytracing
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Battlefield games are quite fast paced. I don't really care whether my team mates eye reflects the muzzle flash of the tank shooting at us
In multiplayer RTS games Ray Tracing will kill the frame rate, so you’ll have plenty appreciate all those deaths whilst admiring the fidelity.
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Battlefield games are quite fast paced. I don't really care whether my team mates eye reflects the muzzle flash of the tank shooting at us
Shadows (and all the other un-necessary crap) get turned off man! I like to see what the hell I'm shooting at
That GTX1080 score is with the GTX1080 11gbps card. The normal GTX1080 came with 10gbs ram and at 2190/2762 does 8349
https://www.3dmark.com/spy/397173
(yes the benchmark is mine
This is still not relevant
My personal 1080 is hitting 8552 GPU score in timespy on air and i gaurantee you it's an original 10Gbps card
https://www.3dmark.com/3dm/22224310
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AMD need to get Navi on 7nm as soon as possible on GDDR6 and drop the HBM2 as according to some sites they are losing money on every Vega card sold due to high memory prices. As I said before the launch on the July hardware survey on Steam the GTX1080ti accounted for 1.19% of all users.
If nVidia move up the price stack like this they will either kill the revival in PC gaming or allow AMD to have the low to mid-end GPU market. With PS5 due in 2019 they will already have silicon 7nm Navi being sampled already, the non RTX cards (1060 and below) will be a Pascal refresh so the pricing of those cards will be very interesting.
If AMD could get some RX 670/680 cards out with some clock speed improvements and competitive pricing they could also fill the gap that way. I’ve never really understood how they can dominate the console market and not have games optimised for PC unless nVidia is bribing developers to optimise for nVidia, it’s not as if Intel didn’t do this!
If nVidia move up the price stack like this they will either kill the revival in PC gaming or allow AMD to have the low to mid-end GPU market. With PS5 due in 2019 they will already have silicon 7nm Navi being sampled already, the non RTX cards (1060 and below) will be a Pascal refresh so the pricing of those cards will be very interesting.
If AMD could get some RX 670/680 cards out with some clock speed improvements and competitive pricing they could also fill the gap that way. I’ve never really understood how they can dominate the console market and not have games optimised for PC unless nVidia is bribing developers to optimise for nVidia, it’s not as if Intel didn’t do this!
From the OP's post it seems a 2080 will struggle to exceed Vega 64 let alone 1080ti.
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Developing next gen console GPUs whilst entirely neglecting PC GPUs.
True but they went where the money was, we can't really blame them for that. AMD have in the past had the best cards both for performance and for the money (i'm thinking the 290x) and still lost to NVIDIA mind share at the high end, we really have no one to blame but ourselves.
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Well I bought 290x... then GTX 1080 because there was nothing on the AMD side that came close, so my conscience is clear and I shall purchase a 2080 Ti if it is much faster in non-RTX operations.