Cambridge Analytica

The data collection and influencing has been well known for many moons indeed. Alternative media gives more information and usually sooner. Somewhere broke this CA story this afternoon according to a blog I've just clicked on from one of the #CambridgeAnalyticaUncovered.

problem is this is the sort of thing that gets hyped up easily... see the press lapping up the big timing by the people doing the pitch ref: claims of using ex spies etc..etc.. when they're just talking about subcontracting/putting them in touch with other companies that can offer that. Obviously for people who like their conspiracies (i.e. lots of the readership of alternative media*) this sort of story is golden for them and can be perceived by them to simply reinforce whatever world view they've constructed.

*I don't mean to necessarily include you in that and you've not made clear what media sites you're referring to but take a look at say the comments section under an Alex jones/Info Wars video for the type of conspiraloon people I mean

The crap collected won't make sense anyway.

they can tell for example whether you're a black or white person: 95% accuracy, whether you're democrat or republican: 85% accuracy, whether you're gay: 88% accuracy etc.etc. there are a whole range of things that can be inferred based on what you've chosen to like on facebook

A very good post on reddit about this:

"So it WAS an effort to corner the financials to a select few people, manipulate, bribe and influence for the sake of their fascist dreams for themselves![...]"

Was it? I'm not sure what is good about that post? Who did they personally bribe? As for influence.. that is what political campaigns do, they influence people via advertising, canvassing and (these days) social media. Optimising your advertising budget on social media to better target people is suddenly being portrayed as something dark/mysterious.

There are legitimate questions to be asked about how they've handled data, have they breached data laws etc.. but the rest is just smoke and mirrors, a story the press are lapping up because a some execs decided to play the big man during a pitch to try and impress a client.
 
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I have to say the information in the documentary wasn't as illuminating. It just states things and uses CA methods to influence people, eg sway the US election and shows Trump. Then in the same breath at the very end it talks of payments through proxy (exactly what Clinton did), but C4 don't put their foot over the line on that facet.

While it is very concerning, it's not anything that I wouldn't have expected tbh.
 
problem is this is the sort of thing that gets hyped up easily... see the press lapping up the big timing by the people doing the pitch ref: claims of using ex spies etc..etc.. when they're just talking about subcontracting/putting them in touch with other companies that can offer that. Obviously for people who like their conspiracies (i.e. lots of the readership of alternative media*) this sort of story is golden for them and can be perceived by them to simply reinforce whatever world view they've constructed.

*I don't mean to necessarily include you in that and you've not made clear what media sites you're referring to but take a look at say the comments section under an Alex jones/Info Wars video for the type of conspiraloon people I mean

The press in reality do this to everyones face anyway. Particularly in the US (BLM/Cop Shootings/Antifa/DNC etc). These meetings go on behind closed doors at virtually every media company. From BBC, to CNN to Infowars, it matters not. Confirmation bias, as much as I don't like the term.

The UK establishment media have gone into overdrive about the Russia thing. Levelling accusations with no real substantive evidence being behind their accusations. Again, it ignores some real scandals, eg Telford and the Council bosses refusing an Investigation.

I do read Infowars (nothing to be ashamed of - they reported the HSBC tax avoidance thing a couple of years ago days before the BBC), neutral sources that only present the evidence eg WikiLeaks, and others from hashtag trends where evidence has to be pieced together. Yes, there are some strange people who comment on there too, and while Alex Jones is a bit unhinged on the very rare occasion I have watched him, find him amusing and passionate more than anything.
 
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***REMOVED***

Lol. It's because there is a target on your back.

Just keep it in with CA and make vague references. The whole topic does without doubt spill into multiple topics. Its world politics essentially, from Trump-China and from press to mind control
 
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I've got enough targets on my back to wallpaper my house yet I'm not banned from anything (permanently at least). It is fairly obvious that those who lose certain privileges tend to deserve it.
 
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From the above link:

data affecting 51.3 million members was improperly shared with a political consulting firm

What does proper look like? Practically speaking would that have been any different? What if the data was crawled by the 3rd party rather than volunteered? I get the impression this is only in the news as in this instance the data happened to be used for 'off-message' campaigns.
I highly doubt this will be a privacy watershed moment where people actually consider the data they are volunteering to these companies.
 
Look how long it's taking to get a warrant. Any incriminating evidence could have been deleted by now

If they find proof through digital forensics that they deleted information whilst the warrant was being filed, they will likely be in even more trouble.
 
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