Can a vegan diet make me strong. Let's find out.

Very funny guys.

I stopped lifting because the body-building scene is built on steroids. I wanted to prove you could gain a lot of muscle on a vegan diet but I was naive in thinking I could do it naturally. The human body just isn't anatomically designed to carry that much muscle. Go back in history before steroids and you'll find the greatest bodybuilders like Eugen Sandow, who was still taking a ton of other stuff.

Anyone here bigger than Eugen Sandow and is full natty? We live in a society where people think The Rock is full natty but wouldn't be nothing more than a pebble without the hot sauce.

If you want to get serious, you have to get on the juice. Nothing wrong with that and I did contemplate it, I mean at least I'd be taking steroids for a good cause rather than to look at my huge trenbolone biceps in the mirror.

Even the full time athletes on the juice took years to get big.

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I found my passion in running. I'm still a new runner but I can come 25th out of 500 in a parkrun running barefoot on only 25 miles a week. Give me another two years and we'll see how fast I can get. It takes at least 2 years to get fast as a barefooter because your feet have to get strong and your soles have to thicken.

I'm still glad I lifted because I learnt a lot here about technique and whilst it's not perfect it's way better than average I see. So thanks to everyone who gave good advice on squats, deads and bench. I attribute it to my injury-free (touch wood) running and recently I've started strength training again for maintenance.

Was this log a failure? Well it depends if you think lifting 175KG deadlift is strong after one year training, full natural, no stimulants, no supplements. I'd say the vegan diet got me strong since I couldn't lift 100KG before I started. Not bad for someone 6'4" (short guys do less work moving weights, that's why you always see stocky manlets).

Old stats:

Squat - 72.5kg
Deadlift - 105kg
Bench - 65kg
OHP - 52.5kg

One year:

Squat - 110KG
Deadlift - 175kg
Bench - 90kg
OHP - 52.5kg (I sucked at this).

Looking back I was also seriously undercarbed and hadn't discovered raw properly yet, there's always ways to improve your diet.
Anyways I don't need to get swole there are plenty vegans out there doing it right now (and yes I believe they're on the juice).

http://www.greatveganathletes.com/bodybuilders

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So you can get strong and swole on a vegan diet without causing abuse to innocent beings. You don't need to end an animals life to sustain your own. It's 2015 come on guys, choose the better diet and nobody gets hurt.
 
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There are a few people here who are bigger than Eugene and being full natty, yes? Particularly if you take set body parts but I understand the training back then was different.
 
How long have they been training though, 10 years? How do you know they're full natty?

How is the training different? Everyone recommends the oldest programs and lifts to get results. The big three lifts. The food quality back then was better too, organic and fresh not mass produced cheap crap we get today.

Freeweights were used back then and they are still the best way to train, we have machines now but everyone knows they're a waste of time and the only reason they are in the gym is to attract newbies.

Regardless, Eugene was THE swolest back then, a champion. He trained for years and years in a world with better food and less pollution.

Why can a regular joe kid get in the gym in 2015 and get bigger than Eugene in less than a year and claim he's full natty. It's just a joke.
 
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How long have they been training though, 10 years? How do you know they're full natty?

How is the training different? Everyone recommends the oldest programs and lifts to get results. The big three lifts. The food quality back then was better too, organic and fresh not mass produced cheap crap we get today.

Freeweights were used back then and they are still the best way to train, we have machines now but everyone knows they're a waste of time and the only reason they are in the gym is to attract newbies.

Regardless, Eugene was THE swolest back then, a champion. He trained for years and years in a world with better food and less pollution.

Why can a regular joe kid get in the gym in 2015 and get bigger than Eugene in less than a year and claim he's full natty. It's just a joke.
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The people I'm referring to haven't just gone to the gym and got big in a year, most people on this forum have been training 4years +, some a hell of a lot more.

How do I know they're natty? Because they are people I trust, people I have actually spoken to and met not just people on an internet forum. How do you know Eugene was 100% 'natty'? The fact is, you don't, he could have easily been popping something if it was available.

Food I agree was better back then in the sense there was less excess crap available, however a chicken breast is a chicken breast (unless we're talking about the cheap tat that's pumped full of water, and yes you can get them without this)

With regards to training, I meant priorities, many guys have a better chest than him, many also appear to have legs larger.
 
Oh lawd, blaming weakness on your height, and saying anyone over a certain level of strength or size are definitely juicing.

Some people are genetically predisposed to certain things. I seem to be predisposed to strength and size, but I can't even watch people sprint without gassing out from it.

Granted, that's partly because I'm lazy and I haven't really made as much use of my predisposition as I should, so I'm overweight and unfit in an endurance capacity, but I'm never going to be able to really do distance sort of stuff, and it's easy and clear to see that your claims that people are supposed to be slight and small is just utter BS.

I don't really believe you believe that people aren't supposed to carry "excess" muscle mass on them, because people come in so many different shapes and sizes that it's an absurd statement to make.

But in your case, you really are blaming weakness of something you've got control over. You are choosing to be weak, you're not weak because of your circumstances. There are plenty of people your height and taller that are in the upper echelons of strength athletes.
 
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