I’ve noticed too many just like to get up other peoples noses out of spite.
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I’ve noticed too many just like to get up other peoples noses out of spite.
oxbridge rejects at Durham have never known what its like to be part of a close knit community, bound together by shared tragedy and back breaking hard work
135 pits were in the durham coal field employing entire families, often at least two generations
if you are a student attending a university at least try to learn something about the culture and history of the area you are living in (I am proud to say my godson is at Bangor and is bothering to learn Welsh,not because he needs to, but he wants to learn about the area and the culture)
135 pits were in the durham coal field employing entire families, often at least two generations
if you are a student attending a university at least try to learn something about the culture and history of the area you are living in (I am proud to say my godson is at Bangor and is bothering to learn Welsh,not because he needs to, but he wants to learn about the area and the culture)
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To be fair, it is not about having no sense of community, it is that lads on sports socials at university have communities which thrive upon behavior that is borderline. It is almost a right of passage to the clubs to be to drink too much, be too loud and cross the line while getting away with it. I was there myself and it isn't even about having a low standard in behavior but rather setting something that is hard to top whilst being memorable.
In my later years at university, Jade Goodie had died after getting cancer. One of the freshers had a simialr-ish face, so they shaved their head and paraded them around with a sign saying RIP Jade Goodie on it on a pub crawl. All that was spoken about the incident after was just about how funny certain peoples reactions were to it and how upset some people got over 'a little cancer joke'. Regardless of whether you were a fan of Jade Goodie or not, the act was crass and made to prevoke negative reactions using the image of an untimely death due to cancer. Although i found it somewhat funny at the time, there was no question in anyone's minds whether the incident had crossed the line.
I think the problem lies as much as young lads thinking they are now adults and free to act how they please, unaware of the thorns life has to offer.
Just LOL. They really do have a chip on their shoulder about the loss of their mines, 30 years ago.
Imagine if the Cornish were still bitter about losing their tin and copper mines. The last of those closed at about the same time - although most had already closed by the start of the 20th century.
We're certainly interested in our mining heritage, although these days we're still paying for it in terms of environmental impact and long-running cleanup operations. But Cornwall long ago moved on. Obvs 30 years aint enough time. But hopefully in another 30 they'll be less bitter about it.
I think perhaps you're right and there is partly some desire to be edgy, though a big part of it is likely also simply because it is relevant to the local area.
How many mining jobs were lost on Cornwall? Genuine question. Tried googling but can’t find an answer quickly.
Was just thinking the same thing. Selby pit alone had over 2,000 employed before it closed, with about 3,500 at its peak. Kellingley had between 2,500 and 3,000. In 1984 there were 190,000 miners employed. 40,000 in my county, Nottinghamshire, at its peak.
Plenty of people have moved on, but one can't overlook some of the consequences from large scale closures, some of which do reverberate to the present day. Drug addiction was a particularly potent long term effect on local people, especially to Heroin. It was a big problem in the 1990s. I'm not sure if its as big an issue today. Some real sorry tales of despondency. Even if you're oblivious to the social effects, the fiscal cost of the benefits, drug/rehabilitation, crime prevention/solving, sickness pay, etc must be huge. The negative social and emotion effects are almost incalculable though, and I can tell FoxEye that you haven't lived in areas of high unemployment before, particularly when it's been persistent.
I'm all for ambition, hard work and enterprise by the way, I understand how modern economies work. But large scale changes in an economy have to be managed correctly, there should have been much more thought given to the closure programmes, including proper support for regeneration rather than bringing down the hammer for ideological reasons.
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From googling it seems to have taken nearly 100 years for mining in cornwall to die off slowly, not quite in the same way as up north. No numbers though. Good job they got 100 years to move on and get over it! Still bitter though, enough to want it to be counted as a world heritage site for mining in fact.
LOLs. You have no idea what you're talking about, if you think that being a site of historical significance (note the word "historical") implies bitterness that the past is not the present.
In fact that makes absolutely zero sense. Good job!
Do you think that because Rome restores and protects the Colosseum (etc) that they are still bitter about the loss of the Roman empire? Such a weak retort.
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It was a poke at spouting nonsense. Everyone on this forum knows you will never give up the last word, its petty. Good luck in your future endeavours.
As near as I can tell the numbers of copper and tin miners 100 years ago was maybe 20,000. They were higher in the past, but whichever way you slice it, it has taken hundreds of years for a much smaller number of people to lose their jobs. Hardly comparable to the rapid shuttering of mines and the hundreds of thousands of jobs lost in bursts over a matter of decades.
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You know that, I know that, but you're trying to present logical reasoning to the cornish version of alan partridge. Ahaaa.
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Spurs fans are still bitter about Woolwich Arsenal moving north of river over a hundred years ago.
It's ironic the closure of the mines probably saved more lives than it cost. :O
The fact that the north east miners were one of the most divided groups probably doesn't help.
But the industry didn't really do itself any favours with the **** they pulled in the 70's resulting in the 3 day week. So sympathy for their situation is probably lower than it would be if they hadn't tried hold the country to ransom.
The fact that the north east miners were one of the most divided groups probably doesn't help.
But the industry didn't really do itself any favours with the **** they pulled in the 70's resulting in the 3 day week. So sympathy for their situation is probably lower than it would be if they hadn't tried hold the country to ransom.
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Every ex miner I know is still not earning the money they earned back then when the pits closed down, even the mate who is now a headmaster at a posh local school.
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I think the issue with coal mines was mainly a political one, with an environmental and economical issue as a secondary point. Today the environmental argument would be the driving point behind a change in power production, with economics closely behind and political support for/against coal would purely depending on which voter group you are trying to target, as the threat of the country grinding to a halt is not there.
In today's world, i can't imagine many politicians willing to support opening coal mines, after all, you gotta burn it to use it!