Canadian Grand Prix 2010, Circuit Gilles Villeneuve, Montreal - Race 8/19

[VaderDSL]

Really enjoyed the race! Not knowing when the tyres were going to fall apart or who was going to suffer first was exciting, the fact that we had a leader 10 seconds in front and eneded up being caught was a lot of fun as well!

Probably the best race so far, in terms of dry race and action.

 

[sunama]

Did Vettel not have a problem with his car during the last GP, which compromised his race pace?

 

[LizardKing]

Did Vettel not have a problem with his car during the last GP, which compromised his race pace?

Yep - it was between the steering wheel and seat

 

[gord]

Vettel isn't going to win any WDC anytime soon, he's quick when things are going right but when they aren't he can't pull out anything special.

Hamilton can, and does - look at qualifying for Canada.
Button does - look at his inspired (and yes, risky) tyre choices at wet/dry races.

Button, Alonso and Hamilton are all different but they have what it takes to add that little extra to the package. Has Vettel shown he has that?

Quite. You give those 3 the tools to do the job and they have done it. At the moment the RB boys have the tools, and yet they aren't winning the races. Sure they have had some bad luck/reliability issues, but driver error is killing them too.

But, there is still a long way to go in this season. With the new points system, it doesn't take long to jump straight to the top.

 

[NathanE]

Apparently the FIA are going to bring in new rules to prevent a repeat of Hamilton running out of fuel in qually.

Hamilton seems to have a talent for finding grey areas of the rule book that are subsequently clarified

 

[Dutch Guy]

Apparently the FIA are going to bring in new rules to prevent a repeat of Hamilton running out of fuel in qually.

Hamilton seems to have a talent for finding grey areas of the rule book that are subsequently clarified

Easy, if you do not bring in the car after qualifying and have enough fuel left for a sample you start at the back of the grid.

 

[Lakeland]

Easy, if you do not bring in the car after qualifying and have enough fuel left for a sample you start at the back of the grid.

It's easy to put right, the hard bit is finding the grey area's and bending the rules

 

[DBT85]

Apparently the FIA are going to bring in new rules to prevent a repeat of Hamilton running out of fuel in qually.

Hamilton seems to have a talent for finding grey areas of the rule book that are subsequently clarified

If I recall, the getting back to the pits "rule" isn't in the rulebook, it was a memo Charlie Whiting sent to the teams 6 years ago.

 

[arknor]

Haven't read the entire thread, but what was the general consensus on Hamilton being released right into Alonso? (Or is that a stupid question ) - was ignored by the commentators as well, funnily enough!

on another forum someone posted picture evidence showing hamilton beeing released 0.3 seconds after alonso.

not much you can do unless you expect mclaren to wait until the pitlane is empty

 

[sunama]

If I recall, the getting back to the pits "rule" isn't in the rulebook, it was a memo Charlie Whiting sent to the teams 6 years ago.

Considering how technologically advanced F1 is, the above is laughable.

What next, the use of an abacus on board a space ship?

 

[Baboonanza]

on another forum someone posted picture evidence showing hamilton beeing released 0.3 seconds after alonso.

not much you can do unless you expect mclaren to wait until the pitlane is empty

Considering it's a manual system 0.3seconds is well withing the range of human error. The lollypop man can't react that fast.

The problem is that the rule is a joke, it gives a massive advantage to the car that pits further back.

 

[utajoker]

new sig time

 

[JRS]

If Button wants to get some preferential treatment on race days then he will need to outqualify Hamilton.

Qually stands at 5:3 between them now doesn't it? Ditto for race finishes, though two wins each obviously.

Can't help feeling that RadiatorBungGate in Monaco will prove very costly for Jenson later in the year.

 

[5abr3]

Qually stands at 5:3 between them now doesn't it? Ditto for race finishes, though two wins each obviously.

Can't help feeling that RadiatorBungGate in Monaco will prove very costly for Jenson later in the year.

By the same token Hamilton lost a lot of points from his blowout, there are a lot of if's already this season and a close drivers race nearly half way through will encourage the teams to take the biger risks and thus produce better viewing imo.

 

[JRS]

By the same token Hamilton lost a lot of points from his blowout, there are a lot of if's already this season and a close drivers race nearly half way through will encourage the teams to take the biger risks and thus produce better viewing imo.

True, I'd forgotten about that. They actually reciprocated pretty well in the end with those, since the other driver finished 5th in both cases!

 

[sunama]

Qually stands at 5:3 between them now doesn't it? Ditto for race finishes, though two wins each obviously.

Can't help feeling that RadiatorBungGate in Monaco will prove very costly for Jenson later in the year.

All the top drivers have suffered DNFs:

Hamilton (DNF when he was in 2nd place, penultimate lap)
Vettel - multiple DNFs
Alonso (DNF when running in a safe 2nd (was it?))
Button (DNF Monaco)

If anyone can feel hard done by, it has to be Vettel, but the remaining drivers have all had equal DNFs. Webber has been the lucky one, but I'm confident over the course of the season, it will all even out.

As long as we continue having dry races with generic strategies, you will continue to see Hamilton outperform Button. This simply down to his basic speed advantage. This is evident where both Button's wins have come in damp/wet (non-generic) conditions.

The minute we start getting topsy turvy races, especially in the wet, Button should be able to gain an advantage over Hamilton.

If Hamilton can learn to make his own strategic decisions and get them right, then he shall definitely be set fair to attack MS's records, but until then it is going to be tough, especially when you consider that Alonso is still a young man and at/near the top of the game.

 

[Alibaba99]

All the top drivers have suffered DNFs:

Hamilton (DNF when he was in 2nd place, penultimate lap)
Vettel - multiple DNFs
Alonso (DNF when running in a safe 2nd (was it?))
Button (DNF Monaco)

If anyone can feel hard done by, it has to be Vettel, but the remaining drivers have all had equal DNFs. Webber has been the lucky one, but I'm confident over the course of the season, it will all even out.

As long as we continue having dry races with generic strategies, you will continue to see Hamilton outperform Button. This simply down to his basic speed advantage. This is evident where both Button's wins have come in damp/wet (non-generic) conditions.

The minute we start getting topsy turvy races, especially in the wet, Button should be able to gain an advantage over Hamilton.

If Hamilton can learn to make his own strategic decisions and get them right, then he shall definitely be set fair to attack MS's records, but until then it is going to be tough, especially when you consider that Alonso is still a young man and at/near the top of the game.

Slight differences in the DNFs in that the two McLaren ones were the result of actions totally out of the drivers control (wheel nut not being done up tight enough and wadding left in the intakes) whereas at least two of Vettels would have been avoidable by the driver (clouting kerbs hard probably lead to the failure at Oz, and turning the steering wheel the wrong way was definitely his fault at Turkey).

 

[Alibaba99]

Apparently the FIA are going to bring in new rules to prevent a repeat of Hamilton running out of fuel in qually.

Hamilton seems to have a talent for finding grey areas of the rule book that are subsequently clarified

And then subsequently ignored as well. The Hulk was definitely weaving to prevent being overtaken in the last race (possibly Schumi as well) and nothing came of it.

Plus there were many incidences of leaving the bounds of the track to gain advantage totally ignored following Lewis' penalty for doing the same thing.

 

[Sam]

http://www.formula1.com

You will need a login but its well worth it , if you click races then > in detail and then videos there are some fantastic little videos from each race and i really enjoyed the turkey one. Gives some extra radio footage that you wouldent have heard on the tv either

 

[Duke]

http://www.formula1.com

You will need a login but its well worth it , if you click races then > in detail and then videos there are some fantastic little videos from each race and i really enjoyed the turkey one. Gives some extra radio footage that you wouldent have heard on the tv either

Yep they are posted on here once up on the website (usually a week after the race)