Canadian Grand Prix 2014, Montréal - Race 7/19

CaptainRAVE said:
I was surprised too given that there was so much debris and that it was so early in the race.
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Do they ever stop the race if a chassis isnt on the track in a dangerous position?

Most I can recall are either weather related or like spa a few years ago when there were numerous cars smashed up littering the track


In regards to Perez, that looks safe compared to a lot of manouvres ms used to get away with regularly lol

I know its in the braking phase but from that trajectory line it doesnt look like he goes left / right ( which I thought was mentioned on Sunday night and would definitely be suspect)
 
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sunama said:
Do you honestly believe that Vettel is happy to see his team-mate win?
This is the guy who took away Webber's last and only chance of winning a race...in a season where Vettel won 13 races. He wouldnt even gift a race win to Webber, when Webber had the team order on his side.

This is a driver who was livid when he finished 2nd to Button in Canada a few years ago. This was after he was comfortably leading the WDC and had won 5 out of the last 6 GPs.

Unless Vettel has been lobotomised, I assure you, this guy is the most unhappy driver in the pit-lane and will not stop at anything to utterly dominate his team-mate.
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He was genuinely happy, it was obvious to see, vimto is a crap actor so I believe what I saw.
 
FrankJH said:
Have Merc said anything about Rosberg's brakes / why they didnt fail when LH's did ( relatively early)?

Im guessing they use the same manufacturer / type?
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There was a radio call from Lewis asking what Rosberg was doing differently - he was told Nico had the brake bias more forward. If Nico was putting less wear on the rear brakes from the beginning then maybe he kept them intact until the MGU-K woke up again (which his late race pace suggests it did).
 
rpstewart said:
There was a radio call from Lewis asking what Rosberg was doing differently - he was told Nico had the brake bias more forward. If Nico was putting less wear on the rear brakes from the beginning then maybe he kept them intact until the MGU-K woke up again (which his late race pace suggests it did).
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Ay? the Merc was still very much broken at the end of the race. Rosberg's straight line speed was awful. Did you not notice the fact that everyone gained almost a second on him instantly on the long straight every lap?
 
sunama said:
Do you honestly believe that Vettel is happy to see his team-mate win?
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Yes.

I don't think there's a single chance that Vettel wouldn't have taken that win off him given even a hint of glimmer of chance and I'm quite sure that he will be plotting how he can beat him in the next race but that's not quite the same thing as not being happy for him.
 
rpstewart said:
There was a radio call from Lewis asking what Rosberg was doing differently - he was told Nico had the brake bias more forward. If Nico was putting less wear on the rear brakes from the beginning then maybe he kept them intact until the MGU-K woke up again (which his late race pace suggests it did).
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The message was from Rosberg because he was desperate to know how Lewis was taking a half a second out of him every lap. As for the MGU-K, again just Brundle being stupid. Hamilton/Rosberg pre power downage were doing low 1:19's, the power went and they went to the 1:22's, but likely adjusting to a different engine setting(optimised for not using kers) and fresh tires jumped them to 1:20's, and not surprisingly over the course of 30 laps, fuel went down. He was back in the 1:19's by the end but with fuel reduction later in the race they'd likely have been in the 1:17's at least. The fact that Massa gained 1.4seconds a lap on the train EASILY suggests what they were lacking down the straights. Also the fact that Ricciardo passed him so so easily.

Fuel dropping improving speed, also don't forget they threw on fresh tires compared to when the power went out. They were doing 1:22's with Massa closing in on them, then they pitted, so they were also end of tire life doing those times. But Perez/FI being so crap in sector 1 and 2 helped Rosberg no end
 
Mercedes Team Principal Toto Wolff had to admit compunctiously that the MGU-K failure could have been avoided. The high temperatures in the Control Unit were recognized but countermeasures were applied too late.

He did look a bit sheepish on the pit wall as the problems were ongoing and in the garage tbh, as though he was responsible for things going awry.
 
Quartz said:
Given the big crash on the first lap, I wonder why they didn't just stop the race and restart it when the debris had been cleared?
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Cars would get too hot standing on the grid, too much faffing about stopping and restarting engines etc. it's just easier to let them SC a few laps until it's clear to race again.
 
sunama said:
Do you honestly believe that Vettel is happy to see his team-mate win?
This is the guy who took away Webber's last and only chance of winning a race...in a season where Vettel won 13 races. He wouldnt even gift a race win to Webber, when Webber had the team order on his side.

This is a driver who was livid when he finished 2nd to Button in Canada a few years ago. This was after he was comfortably leading the WDC and had won 5 out of the last 6 GPs.

Unless Vettel has been lobotomised, I assure you, this guy is the most unhappy driver in the pit-lane and will not stop at anything to utterly dominate his team-mate.
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This pretty much, although I'd say Vettel would be happier seeing DR win than MW, since they genuinely seem to get on as opposed to his previous team mate!

I think Vettel was just happy to be third after all of the trevails he's had so far this season.

Deep down I'm sure he's hurting a bit but then again that's no different to every single other driver when their team mate betters them.

Some just hide the hurt better than others imo.
 
JeditOjanen said:
Things we learned this weekend:

1) Sergio Perez is a top driver (when he isn't turning into a passing Williams).

2) Vettel couldn't win a race in which he started third and the two cars ahead of him had serious mechanical problems.

3) Max Chilton can, in fact, retire from a race.

4) Sauber is the unluckiest team in F1, Sutil having failed to score in a race where only ten people finished and he was one of them.

5) Karma is real and Pastor Maldonado is rebalancing his scale at a rate of knots in preparation for his winning the 2015 WDC.
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Lol!
 
smr said:
Cars would get too hot standing on the grid, too much faffing about stopping and restarting engines etc. it's just easier to let them SC a few laps until it's clear to race again.
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A few laps is fine, but 7 was pushing it. The FIA keep robbing us of racing laps by leaving the SC out too long.
 
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