It's somewhat of a catch 22. If you bulk up the fuel so they have more than enough even with 100% pushing, then the extra weight will increase tyre deg by a lot..well I think so anyway. My understanding isn't as good as it could be.
Canadian Grand Prix 2015, Montréal - Race 7/19
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I am too annoyed with drivers having to save fuel and brakes. Just let them drive flat out. But I doubt Nico could have even mounted a challenge even if he was good on brakes and fuel. The guy lacks race craft full stop. For the first time I found myself feeling sorry for Seb. Had he not had the PU issue in qualifying I think he may have provided more of a challenge to Lewis than Nico.
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Just been watching the sky video posts for the race. I didn't see why Vet got the penalty until then.... My god, what an idiot. Its clear the red flags are out, yet he is still giving it the beans, not even really attempting to slow down, and then overtaking the Manor. What a douche.
Filling them with fuel would do nothing. They would just all run multiple out laps to the grid on super rich mixtures to burn it off before the start. As Brundle said, no team will ever start a race with an ounce more fuel than they need.
F1 has always been about saving something. Tyres, brakes, gearboxes, engines, etc. F1 has never been a flat out sprint. Ever.
F1 has always been about saving something. Tyres, brakes, gearboxes, engines, etc. F1 has never been a flat out sprint. Ever.
Reporter asked Alonso are you frustrated with McHonda .... he answers something in the line of.... you interviewed me the previous 5 years I was standing here in position 4 or 5 feeling frustrated ... if I stayed i would have been standing here again in 4th or 5th feeling frustrated.. so no .. if you want to beat Merc you need to try something different .....
Point.
Point.
That's the only thing. It's very likely to come good and I agree with Alonso and Ron. You need control over the engine. However the whole Mclaren team seems to be close to retirement.
And it's still a **** up, I don't get after Hondas last embarrassment, how they under estimated F1 yet again.
I know they've opened up several new factory in the last month to help speed up development, but how did you under estimate it so badly after last time.
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This is why the choice between Button and Magnussen was so long winded. Magnussen offered a driver that could be their for the life of the development, whereas Button (and Alonso) are going to be off in a year or 2.
Alonso is tied to a 3 year contract with no get out clauses, Button is on a 1+1 or 2 year deal, not quite sure which?
Mclarens whole life post senna has been one long lean spell of sporadic wins. It's what they do. It's extremely rare for them to start the season with the fastest car and even rarer for them to build on that the next season. In a word they are ****. Red Bull and Mercedes have managed in a few years to do what they haven't been able to do for the last 25 odd years, build the best car back to back for two years.
As for Honda, I remember the article in F1 racing about how upset Ron was that Honda chose BAR instead of 'coming back' to Mclaren. Look at how that turned out, they sold the whole Honda project to Jacques and sponsors, every one thought honda would be back to dominate. Yet they functioned poorly within a team, the Honda engineers where basically a separate entity with in the team and they filled the place with juniors. Everyone worried about how poor performance would look back in Japan.
They have sold this same pipe dream to Alonso, it will end the same way unless they make sweeping reg changes to try to kill of mercs advantage. I think they are a poor match up. Even if Mclaren manage to turn this around and make a car 0.000001 off the merc by the end of the season they will only stuff it up for the start of the next and be 0.5 behind again at the start. It's what Mclaren do. Huge budget, huge joke.
That 1 in 3 or 4 titmarsh banged on about must be slipping.
Pull the other one!
Exactly!
I mean, I have little regard for Alonso's intelligence, after all he does claim that he was blissfully unaware of the carefully choreographed crashery around his 2009 Singapore win
, but even then he isn't going to be dumb enough to tie himself to any contract for 3 years without clauses, let alone to a team with a brand new engine and completely unknown competitiveness!This is a guy who managed to break his multi year deal at McLaren without paying any penalty. Actually, didn't he also break his Ferrari contract early to move to McLaren this year too.
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Doesn't matter, both cars had unknown and unrelated exhaust issues, not something the tokens were spent on and possibly new issues. I think both drivers have a right to be frustrated, as red bull were as well.
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2013 they failed to score a single podium and finished 5th in the constructors standings and they can't blame the engine there because Mercedes came 2nd in the standings and scored 3 times the points they did.
Something else is wrong too, just not the power plant.
In terms of this season, I'm not sure we can know. The engine is so bad that at the moment its masking any other issues there may be.
The engine sounds rough in person. In comparisson to the Ferrari or Merc, it definitely sounds like its holding back and not revving anywhere near as high. Off throttle is pops and bangs and doesn't sound like it delivers the power smoothly.
You can hear it coming and it doesn't sound nice.
They'll get there.
You can hear it coming and it doesn't sound nice.
They'll get there.
He could always crawl around slowly then give up half way in the hope McLaren just pay him a few million to bugger off, presuming of course they can tell the difference compared to their average weekend.