Canadian Grand Prix 2015, Montréal - Race 7/19
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I bet Button can
Only over a 3 year period.
Man of Honour
Is there anything Button cannot do over a 3 year period?
Soldato
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He got dumped by his girlfriend, not like his Dad died is it. Anyone who thinks that's an acceptable excuse is deluded. Plenty of drivers have said before that once you're in the car, in the cockpit, and the visor goes down. Nothing else exists, just the track in front. He got bossed by Button. Simples.
so are you going to wipe your brain of all the knowledge you have picked up over the years ?
You wont suddenly "forget" they are saving stuff - the cat is very much out fo the bag on that one, just because they dont broadcast it doesnt mean we wont know its still going on (unless they radically change the engines so we dont know fuel consumption etc etc)
that was how long they were team mates - not how long he was capable of doing anything
Well done for proving how bad an excuse it is by digging up something from nearly 20 years ago
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I think you're reading too much into the girlfriend thing. It was his whole lifestyle that had to change to give him that last few percent of focus on the track. There's no doubt that getting away from McLaren and a poor car, and not having to deal with all the extra corporate stuff McLaren make it's drivers do helped a lot. He's basically grown up over his late twenties.
Hamilton was fast and wild. Now he's fast and controlled. His temperament improved massively over the last few years. As they say, you can take a fast driver and stop him crashing, you can't take a slow driver who never crashes and make him fast.
Sure, Hamilton often wears his heart on his sleeve, but that's part of what makes him hungry to win at every race, no matter what. There's very few world champions who don't have some kind of character that got them into F1 and winning a championship.
Button I think is very underrated, but he's been unlucky to be in bad cars for most of his career (BAR, Honda, McLaren). In that respect I wonder why he hasn't shifted teams more often to get a decent car. He seems like he's more willing to settle for "jam tomorrow" than the likes of Alonso or Hamilton. Button also seems to be more sensitive to the car, needing it perfect to get the best out of it, where other top drivers can take a car and drag it around the track no matter what.
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Soldato
Horner is saying that races need multiple pit stops, but surely making tyres that don't last isn't a good idea environmentally, and as F1 is trying to become more green it's probably a non-starter. The only other way to force teams to make pit stops is re-fulling which is also a non-starter.
On a separate note. I'd like a trial of complete team radio ban for anything that isn't a emergency. Just let the drivers race and figure it out or use the pit boards. Non of this tell them when to save fuel, how much to save, when to push etc..
On a separate note. I'd like a trial of complete team radio ban for anything that isn't a emergency. Just let the drivers race and figure it out or use the pit boards. Non of this tell them when to save fuel, how much to save, when to push etc..
Because the likes of Horner would still whine as the Mercedes cars would turn up the engine to burn more fuel, drive the car faster car and that would lighten the car to make it go faster again. It's not just about how much fuel, it's about how the engines use that fuel.
One of the reasons Mercedes is doing so well is because their engine is very efficient. Hamilton's fuel usage numbers have been very impressive over this year's races. If you forced them to carry more fuel, they'd simply be able to generate more horsepower with it. While everyone else was lifting and coasting to get to the end of the race, the Mercedes would be at full tilt for more of the race.
Well apart from the fact the whole point of these regulations is about efficiency, it wouldnt work as they would just burn it off on their laps to the grid, running round and round on super high fuel mixtures dumping off as much fuel as possible.
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To add to this.. The recent example of that pilot who ditched the plane with a planned descent, because he was depressed.
Everyone is affected by their personal life whilst at work. The difference is that some people are better at it than others and some people have to work harder at it, whilst some people find it easier (controlling the work-life split).
I'm truly getting so sick and tired of hearing Horner. When his team was dominating there was hardly a peep out of him.
Oh no, even then he frequently whined. Every race the power advantage of the merc engine went up, by the last race he was complaining about the 17500bhp difference. Conveniently ignoring at the time how the Renault lump was smaller, lighter, more frugal, had better torque delivery and was mapped ideally for exhaust blown diffusers.
Oh just use ignore you old woman, the point was proved recently as I stated an airline pilot killed himself. As did that fighter pilot, sorry Frank next perhaps you could list a time frame for all future comparisons that suits your ever changing agendas. I used the recent airline pilot and then referenced the older article because I knew some pedant would state the German Wings pilot wasn't a fighter pilot. I was not expecting the date to matter.
Clearly out of work pressures are an issue in all forms of workplace/sport, you would have to be a complete moron to think otherwise.
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Equally, it was hardly the drubbing for Button that many on here were certain was going to happen.