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If he had eased off he wouldn’t have slid onto the racing line in the first place.
Poll: Canadian Grand Prix 2019, Montréal - Race 7/21
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If he had eased off he wouldn’t have slid onto the racing line in the first place.
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HE WAS ON THE ******* GRASS.
So you’re admitting the rear wasn’t planted and that he didn’t purposefully turn right like you originally said. Cool.
I don’t know how much throttle he had on but I’m sure he’d agree that he would have preferred not to have slid back on to the track...
They also think Monaco is a great track.
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ahahaha, never go full Vettel.
I guess the crux of the issue is that he made a mistake but didn't get punished for it. (As in getting stuck in a gravel trap or something. Punished was the best word i can come up with but not the right one..) I get you could say made a mistake but didn't lose out? So there had to be some sort of penalty applied. Maybe it should've been let Lewis past? Which again wouldn't have been great from the fans point of view.. But there had to be some sort of penalty as Lewis couldn't capitalise on it as he couldn't have gone left as there wasn't enough room/he came up on him too quick and he couldn't have carried on right as there was no room. (These massive cars probably don't help.) I'm just not sure what other penalty they could have applied?? Maybe they should have just let them to continue racing and then decided whether to penalise him after the race? I.e. Lewis passes, all is good. Lewis doesnt, give him a penalty. I don't know.
What i did have an issue with was his crazy reaction to the penalty.
Moans and moans on the radio. Then plans to boycott the podium by just going to the weighbridge to weigh the car and weigh himself knowing he can then just **** off as hes officially done what he needs to do. Goes to **** off but then gets told to go to the podium by his team(Probably as there would be some sort of fine/issue/whatever) Then he gets there and swaps the podium signs around, continues moaning in the drivers room and generally fires toys everywhere. What i will say though is fair play to him for asking the crowd not to boo Lewis.
Vettel is a good driver. You don't win 4 championships without being decent. He was always the master of escaping DRS at the beginning of a race. However where he gets found out is when he has to race someone and when he is pressured. I guess he's not terrible at overtaking but he could be better at defending... This kind of stuff however does diminish the above though.
What i did have an issue with was his crazy reaction to the penalty.
Moans and moans on the radio. Then plans to boycott the podium by just going to the weighbridge to weigh the car and weigh himself knowing he can then just **** off as hes officially done what he needs to do. Goes to **** off but then gets told to go to the podium by his team(Probably as there would be some sort of fine/issue/whatever) Then he gets there and swaps the podium signs around, continues moaning in the drivers room and generally fires toys everywhere. What i will say though is fair play to him for asking the crowd not to boo Lewis.
Vettel is a good driver. You don't win 4 championships without being decent. He was always the master of escaping DRS at the beginning of a race. However where he gets found out is when he has to race someone and when he is pressured. I guess he's not terrible at overtaking but he could be better at defending... This kind of stuff however does diminish the above though.
He did get punished for the mistake, it let Hamilton get close enough to have a crack.
Anyway, I suspect the only reason he went back out was for the fans. It’s all he spoke about in interviews afterwards.
If he just left, they would have slapped him/Ferrari with improper podium procedure and most likely bringing the sport into disrepute. For which race exclusion would be expected.
Ferrari know that and that's why Vettel was 'persuaded' to take part.
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I actually thought the race was 5/10 right up until the Vettel incident. Then the toys came out of the pram (Hamilton has a share of moaning, but wow...) then the epic storm off down the pit, then the hiding in the motor home, then the swapping of the 1st and 2nd place boards bumped it to a 7/10.
Even mrs EVH started laughing at his antics.
Even mrs EVH started laughing at his antics.
To see if he, or how hard he accelerated coming off the grass. Did the grass cause him to lose grip or did he floor it too much trying to stay ahead.
Would they also look at Hamilton's to see if he was compromised and by how much?
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They wouldn't need to as he visually had to hit the brakes and clearly would have gone past.
What they needed to know did seb accelerate too hard to stay ahead of Ham rather than return safely to the circuit.
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Dark moment for F1. Don't bother with the race just let stewards decide who wins. Would vote negative 10 if I could.
Well, I don't agree with the penalty but that's just a stupid position to take.
But he was only quicker on the harder tyres and was also having some brake issues. He was also a bit unlucky with backmarkers a few times giving seb DRS on the final straight. And then that happened.
Since then I think the stewards have strived for more consistency, and spa is wide open whereas today we had walls right next to the circuit, less room for shenanigans means more risk means harsher penalties.
But the point is, why was he sliding? He was sliding because he was on the power, he should have backed off. The priority when rejoining the track is doing it in safe manner, not keeping your foot in to try stay ahead of the car behind.
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Yeah seb should have brought the car to a complete stop, looked both ways before performing the appropriate hand signals and then rejoined the track if safe to do so. Lol
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