Canon 24-70 2.8 mkII reviewed by DRev

dannyjo22 said:
In not saying I want to see everything at f8, nor have I implied shooting wide open doesn't work :confused: I just get bored of seeing every picture in a set wide open instead of thinking differently or how much the picture would work better stopped down slightly.

At no point have I said I wanted to see the whole frame in focus :confused:

Oh we'll I give up arguing points I didn't make, it too difficult two finger typing at 1 am on an iPad :D
Click to expand...

Variety is the spice of life, but just as you can see set after set of shots with a wide open technique, you can also see set after set at sunny 16. I don't see why you need to single out shooting wide open, which is what you have done here? (as well as selective colouring and slow shutter speeds with water).

You arbitrarily decided that other people haven't considered stopping down to get a shot. I don't think anyone takes a shot without considering the settings they are using, if you are using f1.4 it's something you are fully aware of when you are working. I've only ever wished I used a smaller aperture if my focus has missed by a small margin :D I set my aperture to get the effect I want on a shot. If I don't consider a background important, or I specifically want to exclude it I'll shoot wide open all day.

The settings are there to use as you please, there's no right or wrong as long as you satisfy the requirements of the customer (be they paying or just yourself). This also goes with PP techniques, selective colouring, HDR, desaturation, "fashion" styles are all there to be used as the creator sees fit for the end result. You might not like some of it, but there's no reason to belittle any of them. :)
 
Personally I've been using 2.8-5.6 for 8 years, always wishing that I had access to shallow DoF especially for portrait style photos. My reason for this is actually as mentioned earlier in the thread (which incidentally is the first time I've ever seen it mentioned here since I've been viewing these forums); the 50s/60s style looks with shallow DoF mainly used in fashion shooting. The dreamy look is something I've long since wanted do produce and could never stomach the fake look from photoshop.

People that don't like it are just noticing it more these days are there are more people with dslrs out there now. I'd be intruiged to see actual figures as there seems to be massive interest in photography these days. Everyone likes or dislikes certain things but saying its lazy is stupid, especially if you knew how much bleedin effort goes into getting 1.2-1.4 focus spot on with moving subjects :D
 
Exactly.

Bokeh laden lenses have been in use for decades but only the last few years have we seen people tag onto iconic lenses like the nifty and get creative with dof.

I've had the nifty since the 300D, my first dslr and in fact it was given to me free by a member of this very forum!

Having also had fast zooms since then both good and bad I still feel that a fast prime is where it's at.

Those that use it incorrectly though will figure it out and their style will mature. Just like when people use hdr the first time, the results are questionable and waxy but it doesn't take long before self critique steps in and things work themselves out.

As said already, this is no reason to hate the trend as it just sounds a bit whiney!
 
Yeah you are right, we should all like exactly the same things and every picture of every set works at 1.4 and wouldn't work better at another f stop.

^ That's the only point I was making, not that I don't like the style, just that I think some people automatically dial wide open and never bother with anything more creative. Seems more than anything I hit a nerve and people are making out I've said things much more horrific and that I dislike shallow dof.

Which is not what I said at all, but if it suits some argument that wasn't there feel free to carry on. I'm out :)
 
^^^
If your out of a discussion, just leave it there or if you need to get the last word in, just say "I'm out". Don't add fuel to it on the way out as it's poor etiquette.
 
You must log in or register to reply here.
Back
Top Bottom