Canon 6D announced...
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Surely they could have used the 5D2 sensor with the 7D AF system really cheaply? Then at £1500 it would be a decent replacement for the prices the 5D2 have fallen too and still provide a decent gap to the superior Mk3.
To me it feels like Canon heard about the D600 and have slapped together something with little real ambition. Canon need better spies
I just cannot see a market for this or who this is really targeting. I imagine the people who buy it will be people who walk into jessops and see the uk prices of the two in comparison to each other. Hell they haven't even made it a viable second back up for photographers by slapping in a SD card slot. I'm sure CF and the 7D's AF for £1500 would have got them a lot of second body sales.
Got to admit I'm a bit relieved by the spec as I was slightly worried I'd jumped on my Mkii at the wrong moment and was going to wih I'd held out for the 6D. For me it doesn't appear to offer anything much over the mkii in terms of photographic performance allthough the low light focusing does sound interesting.
I still think it's a reasonable move from Canon it is cheaper than the competition and specced well enough sure the af is dated but it works just like the mkii's does unless you believe the internet hype. I suspect it will sell well especially once the price has settled from the rrp. Those expecting loads of focus points were always going to be disapointed it's just not the way canon seem to do things.
I still think it's a reasonable move from Canon it is cheaper than the competition and specced well enough sure the af is dated but it works just like the mkii's does unless you believe the internet hype. I suspect it will sell well especially once the price has settled from the rrp. Those expecting loads of focus points were always going to be disapointed it's just not the way canon seem to do things.
That's what i thought when i Bought a good cond secondhand D700, But the D6 and D600 are both sub par specs really, Esp for full Frame camera, Lets face it why would you buy one of those over a 5dmrk 3 or D800, After all you need exspensive lenses anyway For full frame, So it really makes no sense to gimp them like they have, Unless they have plans to drop them to the £1000 mark in the future.
I wouldn't touch any FF camera with a crop AF module, it just doesn't cover the frame enough. Totally pointless having more points all crowded around the middle...
If the 6D had all cross point I would actually be slightly tempted. It's a smaller lighter body and err... it's light and smaller... Seriously though, it'll be interesting to see how it reviews.
If the 6D had all cross point I would actually be slightly tempted. It's a smaller lighter body and err... it's light and smaller... Seriously though, it'll be interesting to see how it reviews.
I can see why you'd buy the d600 or the 6d over the top of the range competitors it's simple price. the difference is still pretty large and woul allow you to pick up a lens or two. This idea you need expensive lenses on full fram is also not really true there are plenty of cheap options out there which are very much upto the job I do however wish canon had announced a new full frame kit lens ideally an update of the old 28-70mm f3.5-4.5 with USM and IS as that would be an awsome every day walk about lens.
It will be a long time before either of these cameras hit the 1k mark and I can't really believe that people expect them too, it's a full frame DSLR it was never going to be that cheap.
I would rather buy the top lens rather then have to buy it later down the line after buying another lens, But that's just me, Lenses last a very very very long time really, So it's a good investment as i see it 
. Bodys come and go.
. Bodys come and go.I would rather buy the top lens rather then have to buy it later down the line after buying another lens, But that's just me, Lenses last a very very very long time really, So it's a good investment as i see it
I would love to buy the top lens either now or down the line but I know it's not really a viable option for me as photography is only a hobby (an expensive one though) and that is where the 6D is pitched it's not aimed at the pro or very serious amature with money to burn on. The 6D can be had with a kit lens for less than the cost of a body only mkiii which is pretty decent value and I think with a quality but cheaper kit lens bringing the package down to about £2100 it would be a very good deal.
I know I've said it before but I really don't understand how anyone thought that a brand new full frame camera from either company was going to be a grand or even less than 1.5k the idea is just a non-starter at the minute. The nuch maligned 5dmkii is still nearly £1500!
I think too many people were expecting this to be an enthusiast camera. This is a high end consumer camera and it does that well. If you take it with just the 24-105 that loads of 5D2 owners use exclusively, it'll do just fine. 1/4000 won't be a problem for those users.
I don't see it's that bad. Plenty of people will like the £700 saving over the 5D3 and features like the GPS and WiFi. A hell of a lot of people only ever use the centre point (and on paper this is the best centre point from Canon to date), it's also smaller and lighter than everything out there. It'll make a good starter FF camera as well as a travel body. It's not for me, but it's going to be capable camera which will suit a lot of folks out there. I just don't think it is aimed at the enthusiast market. The D600 does a little better in that regard with higher FPS and dual slots, but the AF is also gimped on that.
If I didn't have to buy a new laptop as well, I'd consider a D800. As it is I'll plod along saving for the 5D3
I miss the viewfinder from my 10D, I don't think I've used another Canon camera to date where the outer points stretch so far to the edge of the frame. I really don't see the point in having a million AF points when they are all clustered in the middle.
http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/read.asp?forum=1032&message=42513452
6D AF layout can be seen there.
http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/read.asp?forum=1032&message=42513452
6D AF layout can be seen there.
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I like this bit...
However, unlike the 5D2, the 6D does not have 6 invisible assist points surrounding the center AF point. Therefore, I predict that A.I. Servo on the 6D will be significantly worse than on the 5D2. The adjacent points are just too far away from the 6D's center AF point. The 5D2 had 7 active points within the spot meter circle (3 of which were high precision with f2.8 lenses). The 6D will have exactly 1 point within the same area.
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Wow, can't say I'm particularly impressed... In fact, I feel this camera is going to flop.
I'll probably be proved wrong, but I wouldn't buy one just because the AF is so gimped.
I'll probably be proved wrong, but I wouldn't buy one just because the AF is so gimped.
Love these comments about the AF, it's clearly perfectly adequate for 90% of users yes it's not all singing all dancing 65 cross point stuff but twelve months ago nearly every wedding tog in the country was shooting a 9 point 5D mkii and we were all drooling over the results the best of them could muster. Yes it's not great for AI Servo on a fast mooving target but thats what the 7D is for in this market segment.
Not really, 4 years ago Canon was slated for releasing a gimped 5DMKII with antiquated AF that was well below the competitors level and so 5DMKII users endured the shortcomings in an otherwise excellent camera (bar sensor banding issues in the the shadows). 4 Years later an Canon do the same thing and release another camera with highly gimped.
When paying that kind of money you expect very good AF system, at least at the 7D level if not better. The competition can give equal or better 7D AF system (albeit the same central clustering), why can't Canon?
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1/8000, Exception will be gutted!
Canon missed a trick with only allowing 1/4000.