Soldato
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LOL, indeed.
Can't sleep, and have given up. What do you do when you can't sleep?
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LOL, indeed.
Soldato
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Fap so hard I get a nosebleed and pass out.
Job done
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Listen to the shipping forecast on radio.
You must fall asleep waiting for it.
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As a sufferer of acute eczema there are times when I've gone days without sleep due to the constant itching and feeling that my face is on fire. I've tried nearly everything, but in the end I just have to wait until I'm that tired I simply can't stay awake any more.
That can't be nice
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I have taken to quietly playing a "sleep" playlist on Spotify through the Hi-Fi since creating this thread. Seems to work reasonably well.
By "booked off" do you mean you rang up and pathetically feigned illness?
Sometimes, you can suffer with a sleep issue to such an extent that the next day you are utterly RINSED and can barely go the toilet and wipe your arse, never mind get up and do work.
I've been suffering on and off with sleep issues for a number of years now, but it's not so bad for me because I can do a lot of my work from home in my own time. It does however make doing things on "normal time" quite difficult.
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when you don't sleep you turn into a wedding cake stand?
Eczema is a curse, its the only thing that disrupts my sleep. I wake up at least 2 times a week with a massive desire to scratch the itch, or wake in the morning with claw marks on part of me
The only thing I've found that helps is running cold water.
Not necessarily. If your have a disturbed REM cycle, you can wake up REKT. At least I can and do any way.
I wish I was just tired at times!
Not necessarily. If your have a disturbed REM cycle, you can wake up REKT. At least I can and do any way.
I wish I was just tired at times!
Have you ever done what I have accidentally done before, which is, wake up for some reason, absolutely REKT as you described, gratefully nestled back into your pillow again, fallen into a deep sleep, woken up feeling really achey and worn out because you have slept for too long, then concluded that it would be best to keep resting, fallen back to sleep again, then woken up and realised it is 8PM and your sleep cycle is now utterly screwed again, and your muscles ache, and you have a headache?
Yes, yes many times. It seems to be the story of my life lately. Except change 8PM with 10PM and that's me.
I then usually stay up for 20-30 hours in a feel attempt to try and regulate myself, only for the same to happen again.
Rinse and repeat.
I then usually stay up for 20-30 hours in a feel attempt to try and regulate myself, only for the same to happen again.
Rinse and repeat.
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I do some meditation exercises. If stuff is whirring round my head I write down my thoughts and concerns. If an altercation or a stressful situation keeps going round my head, I let it play out, and then "zoom out" almost as if it is a 3rd person perspective, and I look at it, and make the problem look really small and insignificant, whilst using calming language (in my mind) and help it square away.
There's no point in fighting your subconscious as it is there to tell you something is bugging you - so you just address it in the right way to dowse the situation into a manageable state.
Stop thinking about not sleeping.
If you have emotions or things running through your head, let yourself feel it, don't react to it or get stressed by it, just let your body/mind experience the feeling. Whilst doing that have a think about how your physical body is reacting and see if you can feel any tension in/on your body and try and focus on it. focus on where it is and what it is like.
Then you need to challenge it, why do you feel like this?
Don't worry about the answer, whatever it is go on to ask yourself, why does it matter to me?
Once again whatever the answer, ask yourself again, hy does that answer matter to me?
You need to keep asking this question again and again until you get to an answer that can be expressed in a positive way or until it is something you care about.
Focus on that positive feeling - it should be something you wish for or is personal and is about your values, not about what anyone else thinks or feels.
Doing this reduces the impact of the original "issue". So in essence spin it on the positive turn it into a motivating feeling - focus on calming yourself by finding something positive to focus on, this will let your mind calm down. Generally you find that disturbing emotions are actually reminding you of what matters to you - it's like a "values" check that is being challenged (for some reason it is when you're about to go to bed, usually because (I guess) there are less stimuli of the conscious mind (i.e. watching tv, interacting on OcUK etc...) distracting you from what your subconscious is telling you. Once you're sure and you've cleared up the positives in your life, you'll find it easier to relax.
Also, generally for most people, when you go to bed it is the first time you get to relax for hte whole day. Often you don't or haven't had the opportunity to register all the events of the day or haven;'t had a chance to let them soak in. This is very true for me and it means often (if I've had a busy day) it causes me to go over things in mind again and again.
One of the exercises I've used is to simply go over every event in reverse order. This means that every single event is then acknowledged by your mind and it can can then process all the emotions. We are visual creatures so when you think about things try and picture them in your mind.
Think about what you were doing just before you went to bed (giggity
) but visualise it.
Then do the same for what you were doing just before that (giggity??). Also think about who was with you, what was happening don't focus on the feelings you were experiencing just the facts. Again think about it in a visual manner.
Carry on doing the above each event, one at a time. (I've been told to think in "colour" i.e. make it picture perfect), and concentrate on remembering all that was said to and by you and also everything you hear.
Just like a zip file or any form of data your mind compresses all the events that have taken place in the day. As such it doesn't take as long to remember it as it took to do it. However the sequence is important as there will be emotions attached to each of them and they will be remembered by your mind despite it being compressed.
So keep going back until you woke up in the morning, by doing that your mind now knows what has happened and what you felt and what you expected and so on. This allows your mind to know what's going on and "file" things away.
So from what I know/have read our minds constantly process streams of images, sounds and feelings. A professor (I can't remember the name of the professor) suggested or discovered that when we try and describe out loud this stream of images and so on, it actually increases our intelligence by creating more complicated neural networks in our brains.
However, more importantly on topic and incidentally to this research they found that when describing these image/sound/emotion streams to yourself silently, with their owin internal dialogue (I've been told to do this with a monotone to help the enhance the effect), rather than speaking out aloud, the people doing it found it impossible to stay awake. I use this one quite a lot, it's tricky at first but when you get the hang of it is very relaxing.
From the research the saw that people only stayed awake for a few minutes, others managed a little longer, but generally they found themselves falling asleep. I find powerpoint presentations have the same effect....
However with a little practice I find this REALLY helps me. In fact all that I have described have been helpful to me.
So for example in a slow monotone, an in your "internal voice" i.e. not out loud describe the day or something that has happened.
So for me for example, "I can see the river Thames and the skyscrapers of London in the background"
"I can hear the wind rustling the trees and I can see the sun reflecting off the buildings"
"I am now aware of a friend's voice speaking to me in the background"
"I can now see a people playing in a park"
"I can see the plane, I wonder where the people are going? Is it landing or is taking off?"
"I see some freshly baked brownies and I remember the taste of them"
"Now I can hear the sound of a motorbike"
"Now I see ironman flying in the sky..."
"I can feel the sun on my body on my skin..."
And so on. You should worry about how strange or how utterly bizarre the things that come into your mind are. Just keep describing them in a continuous stream in a monotonous voice.
Apparently the tone of the voice has a huge impact on your sleep ability, if you're excited in your voice your body will wake you up, so a droney boring voice will soothe you more readily. they key point is to just describe absolutely EVERYTHING that comes into your mind, in short monotonous sentences.
I find it absolutely impossible to stay awake or not relax by doing this. In fact it's quite a fun exercise.
You most likely will hit your requisite REM sleep, but you just won't necessarily get your shallow sleep (this actually rejuvenates you / lets your body recover) so that is why you feel tired and rubbish. so your deep subconscious is sleeping, but in short bursts, and although you don't feel you're sleeping, your brain is getting it's REM sleep - you'll hit it more quickly than you would if you went through the complete sleep cycle - but you're more than likely getting that crucial few bits of sleep.
Buy some meditation books, or some self help hypnosis books. I used to be a chronic insomniac, but my sleep is 100x better than it has ever been.,
Other key things to think about are, no tv or phones or computers in bed. Turn off devices for a good hour before bed. Don't read in bed, only go to bed when you are really tired. Force yourself to get up 30mins earlier than you would normally for a few weeks to help bring your body back into natural rythmn.
Do some exercise no later than 3hrs before going to bed. Don't eat a heavy or huge meal before going to bed.
See a doctor. I do all of the above now, though I do still enjoy reading in bed - which isn't supposed to be good, but I'm sort of "over" my insomnia at the moment. If I suffer from it again, I go back to being regimented when I do.
Also make sure your room is pitch black, and cool.
There's no point in fighting your subconscious as it is there to tell you something is bugging you - so you just address it in the right way to dowse the situation into a manageable state.
Stop thinking about not sleeping.
If you have emotions or things running through your head, let yourself feel it, don't react to it or get stressed by it, just let your body/mind experience the feeling. Whilst doing that have a think about how your physical body is reacting and see if you can feel any tension in/on your body and try and focus on it. focus on where it is and what it is like.
Then you need to challenge it, why do you feel like this?
Don't worry about the answer, whatever it is go on to ask yourself, why does it matter to me?
Once again whatever the answer, ask yourself again, hy does that answer matter to me?
You need to keep asking this question again and again until you get to an answer that can be expressed in a positive way or until it is something you care about.
Focus on that positive feeling - it should be something you wish for or is personal and is about your values, not about what anyone else thinks or feels.
Doing this reduces the impact of the original "issue". So in essence spin it on the positive turn it into a motivating feeling - focus on calming yourself by finding something positive to focus on, this will let your mind calm down. Generally you find that disturbing emotions are actually reminding you of what matters to you - it's like a "values" check that is being challenged (for some reason it is when you're about to go to bed, usually because (I guess) there are less stimuli of the conscious mind (i.e. watching tv, interacting on OcUK etc...) distracting you from what your subconscious is telling you. Once you're sure and you've cleared up the positives in your life, you'll find it easier to relax.
Also, generally for most people, when you go to bed it is the first time you get to relax for hte whole day. Often you don't or haven't had the opportunity to register all the events of the day or haven;'t had a chance to let them soak in. This is very true for me and it means often (if I've had a busy day) it causes me to go over things in mind again and again.
One of the exercises I've used is to simply go over every event in reverse order. This means that every single event is then acknowledged by your mind and it can can then process all the emotions. We are visual creatures so when you think about things try and picture them in your mind.
Think about what you were doing just before you went to bed (giggity
) but visualise it.Then do the same for what you were doing just before that (giggity??). Also think about who was with you, what was happening don't focus on the feelings you were experiencing just the facts. Again think about it in a visual manner.
Carry on doing the above each event, one at a time. (I've been told to think in "colour" i.e. make it picture perfect), and concentrate on remembering all that was said to and by you and also everything you hear.
Just like a zip file or any form of data your mind compresses all the events that have taken place in the day. As such it doesn't take as long to remember it as it took to do it. However the sequence is important as there will be emotions attached to each of them and they will be remembered by your mind despite it being compressed.
So keep going back until you woke up in the morning, by doing that your mind now knows what has happened and what you felt and what you expected and so on. This allows your mind to know what's going on and "file" things away.
So from what I know/have read our minds constantly process streams of images, sounds and feelings. A professor (I can't remember the name of the professor) suggested or discovered that when we try and describe out loud this stream of images and so on, it actually increases our intelligence by creating more complicated neural networks in our brains.
However, more importantly on topic and incidentally to this research they found that when describing these image/sound/emotion streams to yourself silently, with their owin internal dialogue (I've been told to do this with a monotone to help the enhance the effect), rather than speaking out aloud, the people doing it found it impossible to stay awake. I use this one quite a lot, it's tricky at first but when you get the hang of it is very relaxing.
From the research the saw that people only stayed awake for a few minutes, others managed a little longer, but generally they found themselves falling asleep. I find powerpoint presentations have the same effect....
However with a little practice I find this REALLY helps me. In fact all that I have described have been helpful to me.
So for example in a slow monotone, an in your "internal voice" i.e. not out loud describe the day or something that has happened.
So for me for example, "I can see the river Thames and the skyscrapers of London in the background"
"I can hear the wind rustling the trees and I can see the sun reflecting off the buildings"
"I am now aware of a friend's voice speaking to me in the background"
"I can now see a people playing in a park"
"I can see the plane, I wonder where the people are going? Is it landing or is taking off?"
"I see some freshly baked brownies and I remember the taste of them"
"Now I can hear the sound of a motorbike"
"Now I see ironman flying in the sky..."
"I can feel the sun on my body on my skin..."
And so on. You should worry about how strange or how utterly bizarre the things that come into your mind are. Just keep describing them in a continuous stream in a monotonous voice.
Apparently the tone of the voice has a huge impact on your sleep ability, if you're excited in your voice your body will wake you up, so a droney boring voice will soothe you more readily. they key point is to just describe absolutely EVERYTHING that comes into your mind, in short monotonous sentences.
I find it absolutely impossible to stay awake or not relax by doing this. In fact it's quite a fun exercise.
You most likely will hit your requisite REM sleep, but you just won't necessarily get your shallow sleep (this actually rejuvenates you / lets your body recover) so that is why you feel tired and rubbish. so your deep subconscious is sleeping, but in short bursts, and although you don't feel you're sleeping, your brain is getting it's REM sleep - you'll hit it more quickly than you would if you went through the complete sleep cycle - but you're more than likely getting that crucial few bits of sleep.
Buy some meditation books, or some self help hypnosis books. I used to be a chronic insomniac, but my sleep is 100x better than it has ever been.,
Other key things to think about are, no tv or phones or computers in bed. Turn off devices for a good hour before bed. Don't read in bed, only go to bed when you are really tired. Force yourself to get up 30mins earlier than you would normally for a few weeks to help bring your body back into natural rythmn.
Do some exercise no later than 3hrs before going to bed. Don't eat a heavy or huge meal before going to bed.
See a doctor. I do all of the above now, though I do still enjoy reading in bed - which isn't supposed to be good, but I'm sort of "over" my insomnia at the moment. If I suffer from it again, I go back to being regimented when I do.
Also make sure your room is pitch black, and cool.
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