Can't wait to get my ID card!!!
- Thread starter Strife212
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I like going away though
Mind you I only go over to Germany to be honest, may as well move over there.
Although they'll probably have the same procedures eventually.
It isn't quite as bad on mainland Europe but it is getting there. Here is a little article I was reading about surveillance that paints the UK in a very bad light; from January this year.
http://www.newscientist.com/channel...-labelled-endemic-surveillance-societies.html
http://www.privacyinternational.org/article.shtml?cmd[347]=x-347-559597
http://www.newscientist.com/channel...-labelled-endemic-surveillance-societies.html
http://www.privacyinternational.org/article.shtml?cmd[347]=x-347-559597
Hm, annoying.
Why do we need those cards? Surely, if they want digital face recognition, which they already have...is enough? Untill of course amazing plastic surgery comes along.
They already have our data, there's no question in that...however, why does it need to be stored on chips in EVERY persons wallet? Can they just not leave it on a database like they already are doing.
Any developed country in the world today either already has or will have measures such as these in place. Heck, even Morocco has an ID card. Your best chance to avoid this is to live and remain in a less developed country. The reason you have to remain in the country is because, in time, travelling to a developed country will result in your biometrics being collected at immigration, as anyone who has travelled to the US recently would testify. The UK has its eBorders and IRIS Programmes, Australia has one in place that I forget the name of etc.etc.
Something called remote authentication. While not connected to the database, you need to match your fingerprints to what is stored on the card to prove your identity. Photo on the card matches you and the fingerprints on the card match the ones they collect and so your identity is authenticated through two mechanisms. One practical example would be to allow police officers to check you out in the street etc.
Yes, but your finger prints are your fingerprints. Unless someone knows how to physically copy your finger print now? Other than cutting it off someone.
They're pictures will have they're faces covered up though.
You miss my point. One of the benefits of the card is to prove identity definitively any time, anywhere. Get stopped now in the street by a police officer and get asked to prove your ID and perhaps you might show a doctored passport or driving license (harder). Both rely on the picture being of you and subjective judgement of the person asking the question. An ID card would allow, with a simple handheld terminal, for your ID to be proved definitively in the field. For this to work the fingerprints need to be on the card.
Do they not have hand held fingerprint terminals now? I believe they do, only they are just to the Police data base and immigrant one or something along them lines.
I meant important data, ie fingerprints, retinal data or dna. Loads of places have my photo, I'm not bothered about that, it's easy to change your appearance anyway.
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Not so easy to change the distance between your eyes, the width of your mouth, the distance between your eyes and your mouth, the length and width of your nose etc. Facial matching has nothing to do with appearance as such and more to do with facial structure, hence why it is considered a pretty decent biometric. And most places do not have a photo quite like the one on your passport. As I said, it is "enhanced" before being stored digitally on it.
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A news release when the world is still getting to grips with Obama and on the very same day that interest rates are slashed, classic Labour spin-mongery. They make me ******* puke.
that's nothing, they first introduced the idea the DAY AFTER the 7/7 bombings. i remember the tv and radio spot.
i could go on deeper with the reasons and government motives, but a lot of knee jerk no minded people her will call ' tin foilery ' like thoughtless sheep they are.
anyone who thinks id cards are for our protection or to stop terrorists are seriously deluded, i mean it, its more control for the government and when a cashless monetary system come in place, the level of control these psychopaths will have will be astonoshing,. suspected of a crime? money stopped, no cash no freedom.
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Microwave the passport for a few seconds to nuke the chip.
All they'll know is that the chip doesn't work for some reason, and they'll have to do things the old fashioned way.
...yes...because the suspect burn mark on the back of the page won't ring alarm bells
I don't really care about these either way. I would never get one as there is no reason for it as I have a passport and drivers licence which is more than enough ID. If they ever make them compulsory I will refuse to pay for it though.