Adam Crozier, former chief executive of the FA.
Capello stays on as england manager
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Adam Crozier, former chief executive of the FA.
Good decision imo,i think the way Fabio is and the way the England squad has performed at the world cup he is one manager that wont be afraid to make massive changes that are needed.
He wont be afraid or care what people think when he drops some big household names that haven't performed for England at the world cup and over the years.
The players are the problem not the manager, i do think however he made some massive wrong decisions in the world cup.
He wont be afraid or care what people think when he drops some big household names that haven't performed for England at the world cup and over the years.
The players are the problem not the manager, i do think however he made some massive wrong decisions in the world cup.
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What makes you think that, he didn't do it before the world cup or during the world cup why would he do it now?
What makes you think that, he didn't do it before the world cup or during the world cup why would he do it now?
He will now wait and see he has already made statements regarding younger players does that not tell you what he is thinking for the future.
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Well why wasn't he doing that before or during the world cup? The fact that he has chosen the likes of SWP/Heskey/Carragher ahead of their more on form, younger replacements suggests to me that he isn't really thinking that tbh.
For the insane amount of money he is on you expect better. I'd rather we get someone on far less who is English. I wonder how much Joachim Lowe is on for example? We don't need a "superstar" in charge, especially one that knows nothing about English playing style and simply tries to fit players into a style of play that they aren't used to.
He's a liar (insisting that he'd only pick the form players and the ones who were playing for their teams....and then doing the opposite), has no experience managing at International level, showed a remarkable lack of tactical ability at the World Cup....need I go on? What exactly are his redeeming qualities?
blame the manager same old england "ignore"
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It was a poor decsion to give Capello a new contract before the WC, and now we are stuck with him. 
If Capello had any self respect he should have resigned and walked away, but just like his team picks in the WC, he has no balls at all. If he did he would pick the best team rather than the best players.
If Capello had any self respect he should have resigned and walked away, but just like his team picks in the WC, he has no balls at all. If he did he would pick the best team rather than the best players.
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Oh yes very intelligent you are
I'm not "blaming the manager" but equally I am not absolving him of blame either. I have also called for younger players to come in now and build up a new team for 2012/2014. But I guess you wouldn't be able to read that from up on your high horse
I will wait to see if I think this is a good decision or not. If he has a total shake up of the team for our next friendly then i'll be happy,as I think some younger players do need a chance. If,however,he still sticks with the same crap players that have nothing at all for the past years,then i'll be annoyed they didn't sack him.
Was a stupid decision to renew his contract a couple of weeks before the tournament began in the 1st place. You got him in, so that we could do well in the world cup. Before the world cup even starts, you decide to extend his contract. hmmmm. Which idiot thought that would be a good idea. Why not wait until after the world cup, and then take it from there. The FA got what they deserved, unfortunately the fans also have to suffer.
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how the hell is fabio supposed to give team talks when he cant even speak english properly?
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Does no one else find it shocking that from the video's of games, his assistants, in Pearce and everyone else just sit there and get elbowed, pushed around, told like children to sit down or stand up. THeres something wrong with him as a manager, clubs that WIN titles with him fire him because partiallly, his football is crap, and partially I wouldn't be surprised that players and staff don't like him.
The fact that Capello is ready for a kneejerk reaction, blame the whole team, and drop most/all of them, rather than take any responsibility. Blame tiredness despite every major team having a MUCH worse situation in terms of lack of breaks and playing football over the 2 previous summers while England players have done smeg all.
Tiredness is an excuse, its simply not true they were tired, his methods clearly upset and didn't get close to the best out of the players.
WE know for a fact that ALL the players can play better for their club, and most of them have played better on many occasions for their country, the only difference is the manager, his tactics and his style, which clearly doesn't work.
I'd expect, 100% for his style to clearly not work with younger players, or older players, or better players, or worse players, or with the Spanish squad, his methods don't work, change the players, the methods still won't work.
His current ambition seems to be replace everyone with generally worse players.
Even worse is he's said how he'll do things before, and basically lied, he'll only pick those playing, and in form, BS basically.
So he's now saying he'll pick a younger team of players, for god knows what reason, but why does anyone believe he'll do it, has he stuck to his word about anything, even one thing?
The staff don't like him, and more worryingly, seem unwilling to talk to him, the fact that Pearce...... Psycho, hasn't told him to pack the elbow in, also suggests that his staff haven't had the balls to tell him how crap Heskey is, or anything else useful.
Our best bet is dropping him, getting in a manager whose been part of a successful international team, be it an ex player, or manager, but preferably one who wasn't disgraced, a crack head, small, a cheat and not a gifted tactician, and see where they can take the team.
Youth, is a gimmick, picking youth, picking age, picking experience, picking on games player, or form, or a formation or a type of player, or by highest wages, or by most talked about in the sun or who Joe Public thinks should be in, are gimmicks, we need a manager who will pick the best TEAM because they'll be the best team, no matter their age, club, popularity or, also, form. Parkers form is, losing, because West Ham sucked this year, but every single leak out of the camp with the 30 players, everyone said he was unbelievably good, how he didn't go I don't know, how we didn't take the closest thing to a DM the country has, I don't know.
By keeping Capello, we've screwed up the Euros already, and stopped a different manager having a chance to improve the team and maybe make a good run at the next world cup.
If Capello failed, but was on the right track, had the team playing good football but we got unlucky or weren't quite there, it would be right to keep him, but the team is WORSE, and he's had 2 years to make changes, and he's made none that have helped, why would anyone think he'll do better? There isn't a single positive to take from his time in charge of England, not one, yet we think another 2 years will turn this around, delusional.
The fact that Capello is ready for a kneejerk reaction, blame the whole team, and drop most/all of them, rather than take any responsibility. Blame tiredness despite every major team having a MUCH worse situation in terms of lack of breaks and playing football over the 2 previous summers while England players have done smeg all.
Tiredness is an excuse, its simply not true they were tired, his methods clearly upset and didn't get close to the best out of the players.
WE know for a fact that ALL the players can play better for their club, and most of them have played better on many occasions for their country, the only difference is the manager, his tactics and his style, which clearly doesn't work.
I'd expect, 100% for his style to clearly not work with younger players, or older players, or better players, or worse players, or with the Spanish squad, his methods don't work, change the players, the methods still won't work.
His current ambition seems to be replace everyone with generally worse players.
Even worse is he's said how he'll do things before, and basically lied, he'll only pick those playing, and in form, BS basically.
So he's now saying he'll pick a younger team of players, for god knows what reason, but why does anyone believe he'll do it, has he stuck to his word about anything, even one thing?
The staff don't like him, and more worryingly, seem unwilling to talk to him, the fact that Pearce...... Psycho, hasn't told him to pack the elbow in, also suggests that his staff haven't had the balls to tell him how crap Heskey is, or anything else useful.
Our best bet is dropping him, getting in a manager whose been part of a successful international team, be it an ex player, or manager, but preferably one who wasn't disgraced, a crack head, small, a cheat and not a gifted tactician, and see where they can take the team.
Youth, is a gimmick, picking youth, picking age, picking experience, picking on games player, or form, or a formation or a type of player, or by highest wages, or by most talked about in the sun or who Joe Public thinks should be in, are gimmicks, we need a manager who will pick the best TEAM because they'll be the best team, no matter their age, club, popularity or, also, form. Parkers form is, losing, because West Ham sucked this year, but every single leak out of the camp with the 30 players, everyone said he was unbelievably good, how he didn't go I don't know, how we didn't take the closest thing to a DM the country has, I don't know.
By keeping Capello, we've screwed up the Euros already, and stopped a different manager having a chance to improve the team and maybe make a good run at the next world cup.
If Capello failed, but was on the right track, had the team playing good football but we got unlucky or weren't quite there, it would be right to keep him, but the team is WORSE, and he's had 2 years to make changes, and he's made none that have helped, why would anyone think he'll do better? There isn't a single positive to take from his time in charge of England, not one, yet we think another 2 years will turn this around, delusional.
Let's put things into perspective. We didn't even qualify for Euro 2008. England had their best qualifiers ever for World Cup 2010. We stuffed the team that dumped us out of Euro 2008 9-2 on aggregate and were the first team ever to beat them on home soil.
England were terrible at the World Cup but to put the majority of the blame on Capello is crazy. What can he do when his players can't pass the ball 10 yards? What can he do when his defenders all get sucked towards the ball like school kids? He can't teach fundamentals like that in the three weeks before a World Cup.
If you want two very different perspectives on why England should keep Capello, read The Anatomy of England by Jonathan Wilson and Why England Lose by Simon Kuper & Stefan Szymanski.
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I disagree, just look at some of the players Capello actually took to the World Cup, and the better players he left behind. Lets face it Heskey is crap and had a poor season in the league and even took out Rio, which buggered up our defence, and then never used Dawson who was the replacement for him. I just didn't get some of his subsitutions. He made poor, poor choices and left on the pitch some of the worst performing players like Rooney, Lampard, and Barry.
He's been fired twice from Real, and left Milan by "mutual consent" once. He left Juventus when they got punished for the match-fixing stuff, and he jumped out of perfectly good spells at Roma and Milan (his first time there) for jobs at Real.
Hardly EVERY club he's won things at firing him. Especially since he's won titles at all of them. And since Real pretty much came out and said he was fired for the team not being exciting enough.
Tell me you didn't write that.
Also, you do realise a player's form can be compeltely different to his team's?
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Oh look, someone picks my post apart based on their inability to read. I'll even point it out, you QUOTED the first part, then decided to point out he wasn't fired from Every club he's managed.......... now please point out the word EVERY in the bit you quoted?
Its a bad sign that ANY manager gets fired from a club when they are winning. You do not win a cup with negative tactics, you CAN win a league with negative tactics(inter, Chelsea, pool almost did it, loads of others). Yes Inter won the CL but they weren't very negative in most games, just the second leg of the Barca game, they were the more attacking team till they got the goal in the first leg, its a one off, 99.9999% of cups in the history of the universe the team trying not to lose and hoping to nick a late goal loses.
Thats Capello's method, overly defensive, he's not good at making teams that play good attacking football, its not his style, he's been fired because he can't produce it, he's completely failed to produce it for England and looks incapable of producing it, yet we think he'll be able to do it........ with worse players?
THe second quote, picking on form players, ALONE, is a gimmick. Picking the spread of players that work best together, is the ONLY successful method. Fabregas is the most inform player in the Spanish team, yet isn't getting a game. Aguero got almost no time on the pitch, etc, etc. Using one ridiculous idea ALONE, is a gimmick. Its what English football is all about, all of a sudden we're about a winter break(despite having the most rested of the top 16 teams in the tournament, well there abouts, two massive long summer breaks a large number of the other teams haven't had). Going for an uber young team, over the best team, is a gimmick.
Picking on form as PART of the reasoning for picking the whole team is simply common sense, picking the 23 most on form players, even if they were all goalkeepers, IS A GIMMICK. If you've decided only 5-1-1-1-1 can work, and you don't pick, Parker, Ashley Young, Bent, because they don't fit the system, is retarded. You pick the best system that gets you the best balanced and best team you can produce, picking on formation alone, is daft, deciding you HAVE to have a little and large striker is ridiculous, because firstly its not true. Secondly, big and little works if the big, and the little guy are GOOD players. Thirdly, Rooney is a far far cry from a "little" guy, and Heskey is a pansy diving little pratt making him a truly awful "big" guy. But we went 2 years playing Rooney/Heskey, because they "fit" the little and large role the manager adamently followed, which he threw out the window after a game in the world cup. Imagine if we picked the two best strikers, practiced them, found the best pair and they had practice playing together for a year before the world cup. They are all gimmicks, and Capello has shown time and time again he doesn't know the players, don't know who the best players are or who plays well together and most certainly doesn't understand how to get the build up, training, mentality right for a tournament.
AS for the last, I didn't say a players form couldn't be different to the clubs. Parkers also had a half season playing injured when he wasn't very good, I watched 80-90% of West Ham's games, Parker was not close to great as he played half injured, he was rushed back in and clearly not match fit. His form wasn't good, he had some fantastic games throughout the season but overall his season was a poor one. However in the last month he was superb, showed he could play great in some of the harder games against better teams which for me is key, IE he was outstanding against Chelsea with a cracker of a goal.
Its a bad sign that ANY manager gets fired from a club when they are winning. You do not win a cup with negative tactics, you CAN win a league with negative tactics(inter, Chelsea, pool almost did it, loads of others). Yes Inter won the CL but they weren't very negative in most games, just the second leg of the Barca game, they were the more attacking team till they got the goal in the first leg, its a one off, 99.9999% of cups in the history of the universe the team trying not to lose and hoping to nick a late goal loses.
Thats Capello's method, overly defensive, he's not good at making teams that play good attacking football, its not his style, he's been fired because he can't produce it, he's completely failed to produce it for England and looks incapable of producing it, yet we think he'll be able to do it........ with worse players?
THe second quote, picking on form players, ALONE, is a gimmick. Picking the spread of players that work best together, is the ONLY successful method. Fabregas is the most inform player in the Spanish team, yet isn't getting a game. Aguero got almost no time on the pitch, etc, etc. Using one ridiculous idea ALONE, is a gimmick. Its what English football is all about, all of a sudden we're about a winter break(despite having the most rested of the top 16 teams in the tournament, well there abouts, two massive long summer breaks a large number of the other teams haven't had). Going for an uber young team, over the best team, is a gimmick.
Picking on form as PART of the reasoning for picking the whole team is simply common sense, picking the 23 most on form players, even if they were all goalkeepers, IS A GIMMICK. If you've decided only 5-1-1-1-1 can work, and you don't pick, Parker, Ashley Young, Bent, because they don't fit the system, is retarded. You pick the best system that gets you the best balanced and best team you can produce, picking on formation alone, is daft, deciding you HAVE to have a little and large striker is ridiculous, because firstly its not true. Secondly, big and little works if the big, and the little guy are GOOD players. Thirdly, Rooney is a far far cry from a "little" guy, and Heskey is a pansy diving little pratt making him a truly awful "big" guy. But we went 2 years playing Rooney/Heskey, because they "fit" the little and large role the manager adamently followed, which he threw out the window after a game in the world cup. Imagine if we picked the two best strikers, practiced them, found the best pair and they had practice playing together for a year before the world cup. They are all gimmicks, and Capello has shown time and time again he doesn't know the players, don't know who the best players are or who plays well together and most certainly doesn't understand how to get the build up, training, mentality right for a tournament.
AS for the last, I didn't say a players form couldn't be different to the clubs. Parkers also had a half season playing injured when he wasn't very good, I watched 80-90% of West Ham's games, Parker was not close to great as he played half injured, he was rushed back in and clearly not match fit. His form wasn't good, he had some fantastic games throughout the season but overall his season was a poor one. However in the last month he was superb, showed he could play great in some of the harder games against better teams which for me is key, IE he was outstanding against Chelsea with a cracker of a goal.
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Qualifiers, well, are like a Premier league team playing a bunch of non league and a couple championship teams together. Croatia have fallen apart, don't forget that Eduardo was their best player by a mile till his injury, hasn't had more than a dozen proper games since his injury and hasn't got anywhere near back to his best. The rest of the Croatian team were crap aswell, we did NOT demolish a great team, we demolished a completely different team to the one we played a couple years previously.
As for the best qualifiers ever, thats not much to boast about, the teams in our group were pathetic, and don't forget we made hard work of a lot of the really really easy games, didn't produce great football in the vast majority of them. IF Chelsea got demoted to League 2, lost no players, I'm pretty sure a year later we'd be saying Chelsea were the best ever league 2 champions breaking all kinds of goal scoring, defensive, win sequence records......... at the end of the day it doesn't mean they have any better a chance of winning the premier league when they got back to it.
The actual football I saw played under Sven, under Schteve, and under Capello is the same....... infact the world cup games, particularly the Germany game, is worse than any game I saw us produce under the other two. The team has gone backwards, just because other teams in our qualifying group also went backwards, doesn't mean we haven't.
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yep sack capello. he had done a terrible job in the world cup lets be honest.
if it werent for purely financial/contractual obligations i suspect he would have gone.
if it werent for purely financial/contractual obligations i suspect he would have gone.