Captain's of crush ordered, forearm training begins!!

Ripper · 25 Jan 2008 at 18:34

What muscles do these things work exactly?

Freefaller · 25 Jan 2008 at 19:07

http://www.paddleball.com/paddles/Accessories/wristbuilder/anatomy1.jpg

Ultra_Extreme · 25 Jan 2008 at 19:15

Ripper said:
What muscles do these things work exactly?

Mainly the forearm flexors, put your arm at a right angle as if tensing your bicep, have your palm facing you and make the tightest fist you can, look where your forearm bulges toward the elbow, basically that will get thicker

oddjob62 · 25 Jan 2008 at 19:37

Ultra_Extreme said:
Your supposed to treat them like other strength lifts, once or twice a week with proper preperation to advance.

Acutally a lot of the top grippers train their grip more than that. The routine i was doing to get the #2 had me training heavy low volume 6 days a week.

Ultra_Extreme · 28 Jan 2008 at 10:19

Crikey, these came this morning, i got 6 out with my right and 2 with my left. To put into perspective i can wrist curl a 50kg bar and easily hold 70kg DB's in each hand. These #1's are serious bits of kit, ill keep the tread updated with progress, ill be adding these into my routine at high frequency low repetition.

In summary though, DO NOT buy the #1's if you cant meet the stats i posted above, you will at best only close them once and that wont be optimal for grip building, you'd need to get at least 3 reps out

And by the way im considering a 'rep' to be the bottoms touching NOT the range about 1/2 a cm from this where it gets difficult!

Mr.T · 28 Jan 2008 at 13:07

I've been suffering from grip issues a bit when doing deadlifts recently - wondering which grip trainer to start with? Atm I doing about 150kg deadlift (1 rep), but don't really know what I wrist curl....

Ultra_Extreme · 28 Jan 2008 at 13:54

get the trainer and the #1, i wish i had, at least that way you can rep out on the trainer (which is at least twice the strength of a std gripper) and train up on the number 1. Doing the number one isnt hard if you cheat, but closing it completley is extremely tough and like i said im hardly a weakling (6'2" 240lbs)

PAz · 28 Jan 2008 at 18:05

I really need to get the #2

Had #1 for ages but never had the money to really spend on the next level. Got paid today so might have to make an order

samcat · 28 Jan 2008 at 19:33

Didnt do as badly as I feared, got 5 good reps with each hand on the #1, and can do 1 good rep with each hand on the #2.

Going to incorporate these into my routine, 4 days a week and see how it goes.

Sam C

oddjob62 · 28 Jan 2008 at 20:35

samcat said:
Didnt do as badly as I feared, got 5 good reps with each hand on the #1, and can do 1 good rep with each hand on the #2.

you can do a rep on the #2 straight out of the box? I find that very unlikey especially if you can only do 5 reps with the #1. Most people get to 12+ reps on one before they can do a single on the next one up.

samcat · 28 Jan 2008 at 21:09

Hmm, thought it was too easy.
Have just re-read the instructions and I dont believe that I am not doing it quite right.Cant fully close the 2 now...

Will have another crack tomorrow and get one of my friends to cast an eye over what I am doing and tell me what I am doing wrong.

Sam C

oddjob62 · 28 Jan 2008 at 21:13

How can you get it wrong? :confused:

I'm not sure how you can "accidentally" close a #2

meghatronic · 28 Jan 2008 at 21:13

I can do 5 reps fully closed with right hand on #1, about 3 on left hand.

Some work to go me thinks! Still, my friends can't even close the thing

Great little toy. My thanks to OP.

oddjob62 said:
How can you get it wrong?

I'm not sure how you can "accidentally" close a #2

Like me on my first attempt - I don't think he closed them all the way ||, merely /\.

Freefaller · 28 Jan 2008 at 21:45

Ultra_Extreme said:
get the trainer and the #1, i wish i had, at least that way you can rep out on the trainer (which is at least twice the strength of a std gripper) and train up on the number 1. Doing the number one isnt hard if you cheat, but closing it completley is extremely tough and like i said im hardly a weakling (6'2" 240lbs)

I can deadlift 190kg without gloves or chalk or straps - do you reckon I'd be ok on the #1? Or should I get the trainer too?

meghatronic · 28 Jan 2008 at 22:23

Freefaller said:
I can deadlift 190kg without gloves or chalk or straps - do you reckon I'd be ok on the #1? Or should I get the trainer too?

#1 was fine for me, and I haven't done intense weights in a year or so, just usual stuff.

The way I see it is, if you can't do it, it's no biggy, put it away and buy the trainer. Then progress to no. 1 over time.

Freefaller · 28 Jan 2008 at 22:31

Good point.

meghatronic · 28 Jan 2008 at 22:51

Freefaller said:
Good point.

I think I've over done it

Can't close the bloody things now with my left hand!

MAN DOWN

Ultra_Extreme · 29 Jan 2008 at 18:19

jdickerson said:
I think I've over done it Can't close the bloody things now with my left hand!

MAN DOWN

yeah its ok to get a few out but you dont realise that later you have no strength!

I'm focusing atm on getting them closed (touching handles) regularily, then i'll start looking at reps! Its that last bit that sucks!

oddjob62 · 29 Jan 2008 at 20:51

3 useful techniques.

1. Negatives - Get a gripper you can't close (Eg when i was training for the #2 i used a #3) Use 2 hands to close it and let it out with a slow (10sec) negative.

2. Overcrushes - Take a gripper that you can get a few reps with, and really try to mash it, i mean go balls out and try to crush it into dust, do this for 10 seconds or so)

3. Static holds- Again with a gripper you can close for at least 2-3, stick a small penny in between the ends and try to hold it shut so the penny doesn't drop. Try to improve on your time.

Helps if you're like me and have a few grippers to play with

Oh and chalk helps a lot as well

Ultra_Extreme · 29 Jan 2008 at 21:20

^^^ cheers m8, im gonna invest in a few more i think