Car issues, engine failure.

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It appears that my Jaguar XF 3.0D S had a major engine failure Thursday night on the way home. Cruising along doing 70mph, cruise control on, slowed down to let some one pull in front of me to over take a lorry. Pressed resume then as the torque and speed increased there was big jolt and the car shook. Very noisy engine!

Managed to negotiate the round about I was approaching and then pulled over in the next safe place.

Mr AA man, arrived in good time agreed with me that was crank related. In his words “no easy way to this, that’s toast”

Car is now at my local Jag specialist waiting for them to inspect. Wont know the damage for about a month or so as they fully booked up. They did say if the crank has gone they would just replace the engine and trying to locate one can take sometime. The bit I found funny was I had literally booked my MOT and service with them for October the week before.

Luckily the car is still under warranty as I negotiated a 3 year deal on it at the time of purchase. I spoke to them on Friday and they seemed to be very understanding. Told me they cover up to the value at purchase and a labour rate of X. So I might have to pay something towards the labour.

To say my love affair with Jag is now over, is an understatement. Luckily enough my wife doesn’t need her car for the next six weeks. So plenty of time get myself a banger until my Jag sorted.
 
Shocking for a car of that value, i can only imagine it is over complicated which introduces more problems that can happen.

My dad has a 20 year old French Turbo Diesel van that i kid you not, has never broken down in its life and its had a very hard life on horrid bumpy roads.
 
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It's very common issue , usually affects the land rover range more due to the weight it needs to lug around.

There is a design flaw that is too costly for Jag to fix and tbh they should have fixed it as it's a similar problem to the 2.7 engine that preceded it, but the 2.7 had less grunt so wasn't so prolific.

The big ends and mains on these engine although a suitable diameter they are too narrow, a wider bearing would be more reliable due to the surface area. Unfortunately there are many reasons for this, size, weight and cost of engine.
 
dave28 said:
Shocking for a car of that value, i can only imagine it is over complicated which introduces more problems that can happen.

My dad has a 20 year old French Diesel van that i kid you not, has never broken down in its life and its had a very hard life.
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The 3.0L D is known, for spinning its crank bearing and Snapping its crank. When i purchased it i was aware of the issues and purposely made sure the one I got had a full service.
 
sx_turbo said:
It's very common issue , usually affects the land rover range more due to the weight it needs to lug around.

There is a design flaw that is too costly for Jag to fix and tbh they should have fixed it as it's a similar problem to the 2.7 engine that preceded it, but the 2.7 had less grunt so wasn't so prolific.

The big ends and mains on these engine although a suitable diameter they are too narrow, a wider bearing would be more reliable due to the surface area. Unfortunately there are many reasons for this, size, weight and cost of engine.
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I know it’s mad. The bearing don’t even have tangs to hold them in place.
 
inflames said:
I know it’s mad. The bearing don’t even have tangs to hold them in place.
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Most manufacturers don't, but also that's not what tangs are for, tangs are for location only.

Bearings are held in place by crush, they are made slightly larger than the hole they reside in, basically an interference fit
 
We supplied an engine dynamometer with a Jag 3.0 diesel to an overseas customer. Part of the test procedure I had to carry out for the annual warranty was to run the thing through a full rpm range pull and spit out the torque / power curve.

Year 3 of our 5 year warranty I had the manufacturer out there with me and the look on his face as I was running it maxed out. He was literally waiting for the thing to go pop :D To be fair he didn't look too much happier while I was testing the 1.6 Ford Duratec unit either.

Thankfully other than a couple of failed non return valves on the water side of the system there were no other issues!
 
inflames said:
Hence why I got a 3 year one, hopefully they will honour it not wiggle there way out of it. I doubt I will ever buy another JLR product.
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Gutted for you - It’s easy to say this though^ you could’ve had the same issue with a BMW or Audi. Years ago, the engine on my second car(A3) went at 60k miles and that had full dealer history.
 
Ah man hope they get it sorted

My Kodiaq was bought new from Skoda, warrantied thru Skoda, Service plan with Skoda, Extended Warranty with Skoda, MOT and recovery thru Skoda... see where I'm going here?
Car Broke down coming upto about 5 weeks ago now and I was taken Skoda in the vehicle by the Skoda Recovery bloke.

Misfire made EPC come on, car was stopped and not started again, towed to Skoda and left with them.
I was told a few days later that the parts had been ordered and my car would be ready for me coming back from Holiday.
I harassed them on 1 July as we were coming back on 3rd July, car not fixed and no courtesy car.

Apparantly they've already pulled the engine apart, and drained it down completely.
Due to the amount of petrol in the oil they've told warranty I need:

Coil packs, Spark plugs, replacement injector, and whatever ancillaries therein, labour for pulling everything apart and putting back together, full service.

Warranty team appear to be turning their nose up at this, apparantly Manufacturers warranty and the Manufacturers Extended Warranty teams are separate and a law unto themselves lol

I'm away to Edinburgh airport for a flight to malts start of Aug, if I don't have my car back their Hire car is coming with me and being parked up for 2 weeks lol

Hope ye fare better than me @inflames
 
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