Car Purchasing - ITR DC5 vs S2000

penski said:
Honda. Proper wheel drive.

*n

Am i missing something here!? They are both Honda! :confused:

Like others have said. I like both, you've RWD in the S2000 FWD in the 'Teg, but proper practicallity in the Teg which you obviously dont get in the S2000.

Its a tough call.

Have you a reason for practical useage!? If not, i'd S2000 it with the hard top option. But you may live to regret it if your needs change!
 
Conanius said:
most definately.. but at the same time, someone considering an ITR as an alternative is probably someone who knows about cars... and that in a RWD the loud pedal doesnt need to be rammed down mid corner in the wet :p
sorry but that means nothing at all,just saying "they know about cars"
take some of the subjects that come up in here regularly,life-off oversteer for example.pretty much everyone (including sub 20 y/o drivers with litlle experience) that replies in a thread understands what it is,what causes it and how to rectify it.
HOWEVER,do you really think that those same drivers would recognise the same symptoms and react appropriately?
i'd bet heavily that would be a resounding NO.
being able to understand something when you have all the time in the world and no pressure is one thing,remembering and acting on the same knowledge when your about to be paddling up poo creek without a paddle is a different story.
 
I'd take a DC5 myself..mainly because they look awesome and are much more practical day to day.

I know that when I was on a skidpan with instructors from West Midlands police, they said in their experience it takes hundreds of hours to fully ingrain the correct actions to be taken e.g. counter steering to correct oversteer. Theory is one thing but actually doing it when you need to is something totally different.
 
Well I used too own a DC2 ITR and due to my only doing around 6000 miles a year with no great distances in one go being done, comfort isn't a massive issue, same goes with being practicle!

What draws me towards thr DC5 is the rareness and the ease of driving fast. But I would love a convertible, and the sound of a s2k with a nice exhasut is a bonus! But my worry would be the RWD as a lot of my driving is spirited welsh b roads, but saying that I'm a rather carefull driver wet and dry.
 
no doubt it would be the s2000 for me as i'm not into wrong wheel drive. no matter how good they are.
 
Conanius said:
most definately.. but at the same time, someone considering an ITR as an alternative is probably someone who knows about cars...

I dont know about that. I saw some scrawny little, bleached haired mulleted, ripped and painted jeans **** towny get out of a DC5 yesterday with his mate, and talk about how it would keep up with 911 turbos. I felt like going over there and punching him in the face, but I calmed myself down :D
 
Dolph said:
That's part of the reason for the comments... The S2000 handles really well up until it snaps your hand off when you push it that little bit too hard. It doesn't let go very easily, but when it does it does so very suddenly and you have to be really paying attention. It's also very sensative to poor road surface or design.

If it was me, for a daily drive, I'd go with the Integra. The S2000 is lovely, but not the most relaxing car to drive day to day, especially the early ones. The DC5 will probably be quicker point to point in the hands of most drivers (myself definately included) than the S2000, it will also probably be cheaper to run, and has rear seats.

Drive both, if you can both wet and dry, and give them a try :)

Pretty much spot on there. I had an early 99 car and boy was it a handful it gripped and gripped but when they let go its quick and sharp requiring lightning reactions and 110% concentration at all times.. In 2002 they got more friendly and did not step out so harshy but a little more progressive and 2004 onwards they became even more friendly but less of a drivers car.

The DC5 is great but they are all imports which means expensive insurance and hard to sell on. You can pick up UK S2000's now pretty cheap and they will cost less to insure and be easy to sell on. Also the S2000 is a pretty comfory car and equally on par to a DC5 to travelling daily in, the S2000 is just more snug. :)

The DC5 is a superb hot hatch and the S2000 is an awsome sports car that with the right driver behind the wheel is a very hard car to keep up with. :)
 
Oracle said:
Am i missing something here!? They are both Honda! :confused:

Lol, I was wondering that :confused:

Maybe the 'teg isn't a real Honda according to Penski's 'woah, well out of the box, and then again. FACE.' beliefs :p

I guess it's down to what you want from it - the DC5 will obviously have more space and will be more sensible in the wet. The S2k will be great fun in the summer, and it clearly the looker out of the two. Either way, both will be a hoot to drive.
 
I would have to say the S2000 if you don't need a practical car based on the fact that its RWD. My old scorpio used to be RWD and I miss it so much now I have my civic :( The civic is the faster better handeling car by far but if you loose the back end in it then like with any FWD car its not an easy task to get it back in control. With the scorpio the back used to step round copious amounts in the wet but because it was RWD you could control the steering with ya foot and the wheel. When the back snapped out it was so much easier to control to get back in a straight line (or hold it out depending on ya desired effect) than any of the FWD cars i've owned :)

S2000 = most fun with RWD and soft top - especially for a trip round europe :)
ITR = most practical

Overall though no matter which car you buy I will be jealous :p
 
RWD / FWD - all it matters is which way you're going through the hedge, face first or **** first. :D
 
I'd probably have the DC5 due to its relative rarity, tunability and its practicality.
Its a bloody hard choice though, they are both very good cars but for different reasons. Win win situation though in my opinion.

VTEC y0. and that.
 
Both very nice cars but i think it would be the S2000 for me. RWD just is a lot more preferential in my opinion, seems a more fun car to drive.
 
The DC5 is not difficult to sell at all, tidy ones go in no time. BTCC has brought the car to the public eye, people want them.

As for which car - drive both then decide. It's the only way.

:)
 
Gaijin said:
Never mind that, insurance is expensive on a DC5, being a group 20 import :p

Wouldnt know, cant get a quote on line.

But a convertable with lots of power and no driver aids is pretty mental - the S2000 is more than an M3 Roadster for me to insure.
 
yer the s2000 is very very expensive to insure, a mate was looking at one recently and could get the insurance on a z3m coupe for quite a scary amount less!

I'd proberbly be more tempted by the S tbh, would be very reluctant to give up the softtop for a while yet, and they do seriously shift after following Will Gills one around at the Exeter meet last year. The snap oversteer would be a worry though...
 
stupid cars with stupid engines, buy something decent like an elise or if hardtop is your fancy an m3. Cant sum up enough how utterly toilet an s2000 is, useless engine which you have to spend thousands on to get a 5hp power increase.

walk away
 
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