Carabao Cup - Quarter Finals ** Spoilers ** [22nd - 23rd Dec 2020]

Arsenal have good a top class but disinterested striker and a budget team behind him. They won’t be relegation material if they get a new manager in or Arteta can somehow turn this around even a little but it’s pretty poor at the moment.
 
I’m open to giving Arteta more time if he can work with people other than the dross left over from Wenger, Emery and the pocket-lining deals Gazidas and Sanllehi had their mitts in which we’re still stuck with, but he’s doing a Wenger sticking with players that aren’t performing in the games and his insistence on playing Willian who might just be the worst signing ever is infuriating. Briefly it looked like he was making them look better than they were but it just turned out to be the standard new manager bounce and they’ve gone back to being steaming piles again.

Tonight was a bit of a rejects line-up bar the two Gabs and Willock since there’s that Chelsea game at the weekend but he can’t keep picking those PL regulars who keep not showing up either - play the kids, might as well.
 
The whole team is playing differently from the end of last season. There is no press, no quick passing movements and seemingly not a lot of effort throughout the team. Sprinkle in a lack of quality in many areas with injuries and stupid red cards. So either Arteta has told the team to play different or he hasn't and they are doing it anyway, both options don't look good for him. We should comfortably be in the Europe league spots.
 
adam cool dude said:
Exactly he was one of Chelsea's better players last season. If he is not performing it is up to the manager to sort this out.
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He wasnt really. His stats were padded with pens and set pieces. He scored 4 from open play...thats poor for a forward.

Ask any Chelsea fan and theyll tell you how poor Willian has been for them. To expect him to maintain those levels with a poorer squad around him is a bit mad.

Hes not a bad player but for a club like Arsenal who wabt to i prove the signing was stupid. Hes now on a shedload for 3 years just like Auba and Ozil.

Arsenal have quite possibly had the worst transfer windows of any club for 3 years and Arsenal fans for whatever reason supported it.
 
omnomnom said:
Hes not a bad player but for a club like Arsenal who wabt to i prove the signing was stupid. Hes now on a shedload for 3 years just like Auba and Ozil.
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Honestly, the worst thing you can do as a "big club" that is struggling is to give your top flair players big new contracts. It almost never works out. Auba has been disinterested and quite poor since singing a new contract and he isn't a leader of the team in any way. If anything, that has had a negative effect on the team. There are top players who are driven to win at all costs (Ronaldo etc) and there are top players who need a top team around them and the lure of trophies to drive them. Auba is definitely in the latter category. Hes a Pogba. You could pay those type of players 1m/week and it wouldn't buy you form.
 
Where does the Arsenal board stand? Personally I'd be thinking one more loss and Arteta has to go unfortunately
 
fez said:
Honestly, the worst thing you can do as a "big club" that is struggling is to give your top flair players big new contracts. It almost never works out. Auba has been disinterested and quite poor since singing a new contract and he isn't a leader of the team in any way. If anything, that has had a negative effect on the team. There are top players who are driven to win at all costs (Ronaldo etc) and there are top players who need a top team around them and the lure of trophies to drive them. Auba is definitely in the latter category. Hes a Pogba. You could pay those type of players 1m/week and it wouldn't buy you form.
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It is the managers job to manage the players. Regardless of the wages they are on. Didn't he put him on the contract anyway.

You have to give Ole credit in the fact Pogba is joint highest wage and British record yet cannot barely get off the bench. Something has worked as Pogba has been playing a lot better in the past month. That's a sign of a good manager.
 
Spurs all over Stoke here, they can't get out and are fouling left right and centre, a straight ball into the box wasn't defended at all an Bale touches it on into the corner, gotta say there's goals galore if Spurs want them.
 
Maundie said:
Spurs all over Stoke here, they can't get out and are fouling left right and centre, a straight ball into the box wasn't defended at all an Bale touches it on into the corner, gotta say there's goals galore if Spurs want them.
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Of course it is Stoke who are a championship side but it is a windy rainy night so who knows.
 
Classic from the commentators "Son strikes me as the honest kind".

Oh OK then, lets get rid of the linesmen and VAR and rely on players being honest.

And before anyone says, yes, he was onside.
 
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