Cats/Running

aln · 11 Mar 2013 at 00:44

[SKR]Phoenix;23914104 said:
I asked a question. Which again you haven't answered. I don't care if you took it seriously or not. I asked a question, to which I wanted an answer, and twice you have avoided it.

Are you seriously being picky about the difference between myself currently having a cat and having previously had a cat? Alright, I sort of own a cat but not really.

[SKR]Phoenix;23914104 said:
You claim to have had cats. I don't believe you. It's the easy way out of this arguement now isn't it?

Heres a historical rundown.

I had my first cat several years, he ate car. I cried about that.
My second cat whom I had at the same time lasted until she was 7. My mentally disabled sister squished her kittens to death and sadly she never returned after that.
I lived with my 3rd cat for several years but left him with my mum because I moved in with my now ex whom brought her own cat (she had a problem with my cat being there, apparently her cat was too special or something). He still lives with my mum and I often go to give him cuddles.
Ex took her cat with her when she left about 6 months ago.

So tell me, Mr Phoenix, what exactly does that tell you?

[SKR]Phoenix;23914104 said:
Also, I never said you were wrong. YOU said that. I asked a SIMPLE QUESTION. You seem to have the inability to actually understand what has been posted, and reply with the wrong answer. Why don't you try this: Read the thread, re-read the thread and then think about what has been posted. Then reply.

I didn't misunderstand your question. I thought it was a stupid question, not worth the answer being asked, now I think the problem is with the guy asking it. So please, go on sir, make your point.

robfosters · 11 Mar 2013 at 00:52

Hang on this is Kwerk. Wouldn't he just shoot it?

Edinho · 11 Mar 2013 at 00:53

Bha... I'm clueless at chasing pussy.

Transam · 11 Mar 2013 at 01:04

I shot my last cat - it was old, arthritic, and terrified of going in a car. So up to the end of the garden, big dish of raw tuna, close your eyes and pull the trigger. Pop. dead cat.
Even my vet said it was a much kinder way. Live long in Cat Heaven, Roar.

Bromhead · 11 Mar 2013 at 02:46

Does the cat have robot legs and what day of the week would it be ?

Angilion · 11 Mar 2013 at 02:52

kwerk said:
Day light, clear conditions. You will be wearing some type of work gloves and running shoes.

It is completely flat and featureless and let's just say it's made of astro turf. There is no where for the animal to hide or escape, it is basically test bed for RUNNING ability. If it gets past the 1 km threshold the experiment has failed.

Personally I think i could easily catch a cat, rabbit or squirrel, but not sure about a hare.

Within 1 Km, no. Cats are fast, extremely agile and have good endurance. It's hard to catch a cat in a confined space. In an open field, not a chance. It would be possible for a human in good condition to run down a cat in good condition, but not in 1 Km. The human would have to outlast the cat - persistence hunting - and that would take a lot more than 1 Km. There are few animals that can outrun a fit human over enough of a distance, but the distance is a lot more than 1 Km.

drunkenmaster · 11 Mar 2013 at 04:10

It's very possible, infact quite easy.

Get a sibling or parent(if parent you'll probably have to wait 15 + years), sign them up for some kind of dangerous martial arts competition, maybe get in big debt with a mob boss and tell them your brother will fight in the competition to pay off the debt and they'll bring in some ringer.

Your family member gets killed in the fight, you need to seek revenge, travel to a small out of the way far eastern village half way up a mountain, find an odd small martial arts expert, start to train to get revenge on the guy who killed whoever it was, go to a field with a cat, put on some classic 80's montage music, by the end of the song you'll have caught the cat....

simples...

Cosimo · 11 Mar 2013 at 08:04

Chasing skittish pussy in a field. Now that is a more sensible subject.

joey1211 · 11 Mar 2013 at 08:10

Rocky once caught a chicken. So, I'm going with a yes

Mittens · 11 Mar 2013 at 08:28

is it an African or European cat ?

Wej · 11 Mar 2013 at 08:33

aln said:
You think theres not a single capable runner on the forum? I think he more probable issue is a 1km field is too small. If it was a 1km room, I'd take bets on the forum, but I wouldn't wanna kill a cat to prove my point.

As someone who does Ultras I think I probably could. I've run for 9+ hours so I'd have a good go at wearing the little bugger out!

estebanrey · 11 Mar 2013 at 08:38

aln said:
The weight of the animal is completely relative. Sure the Kudu has a much heavier body, but it has a much stronger body and is essentially designed for endurance.

I need a biologist to come in here to explain to you why we're not arguing physics.

So by your logic marathon runners should be bigger built than 100 metre runners then eh?

Oh wait they're not, endurance runners are usually as light as possible and 100 metres runners usually have a bodybuilder's build. Do please ask your biologist how that is the case?

MBennett · 11 Mar 2013 at 09:06

Human beings are one of the top if not the best land based endurance hunters on the planet and are evolved to be so.

1) We are bipedal which is a much more efficient than running on all fours (although no where near as fast).
2) We are almost hair less.
3) We can sweat (in combination to 2) means that we can run for extended times without overheating.
4) We can carry refreshment with us in our hands when needed and do not need to stop.

For these reasons I would say that if the field was featureless (ie no safe havens for the cat to hide) the human would eventually catch the cat when it collapsed from exhaustion.

Gogl · 11 Mar 2013 at 09:16

estebanrey said:
So by your logic marathon runners should be bigger built than 100 metre runners then eh?

Oh wait they're not, endurance runners are usually as light as possible and 100 metres runners usually have a bodybuilder's build. Do please ask your biologist how that is the case?

This is the exact reason why hamster power is the number one choice for powering servers.

Theophany · 11 Mar 2013 at 09:31

drunkenmaster said:
It's very possible, infact quite easy.

Get a sibling or parent(if parent you'll probably have to wait 15 + years), sign them up for some kind of dangerous martial arts competition, maybe get in big debt with a mob boss and tell them your brother will fight in the competition to pay off the debt and they'll bring in some ringer.

Your family member gets killed in the fight, you need to seek revenge, travel to a small out of the way far eastern village half way up a mountain, find an odd small martial arts expert, start to train to get revenge on the guy who killed whoever it was, go to a field with a cat, put on some classic 80's montage music, by the end of the song you'll have caught the cat....

simples...

WE'RE GONNA NEED A MONTAGE!

King Damager · 11 Mar 2013 at 10:07

I think I'm with Gilly here.

The problem with trying to catch the cat wouldn't be keeping up with it over a long distance. Try and reach down and grab a cat, and they can be pretty good at being evasive. Then try predicting it's movements, and various other factors, and I think you'd struggle.

With a weapon you'd have a shot (spear or such like) but without, I doubt it.

kd

estebanrey · 11 Mar 2013 at 10:28

MBennett said:
Human beings are one of the top if not the best land based endurance hunters on the planet and are evolved to be so.

1) We are bipedal which is a much more efficient than running on all fours (although no where near as fast).
2) We are almost hair less.
3) We can sweat (in combination to 2) means that we can run for extended times without overheating.
4) We can carry refreshment with us in our hands when needed and do not need to stop.

Even so I'd like to see a human against a Siberian husky which can run at around 12 mph for 6 hours a day (they do this for 11 days straight in the Iditarod sled race) or an Arabian horse which can run 60 miles at 16 mph.

But in essence you're right, apart from a Husky or a Horse there are probably no other animal that can beat a human over long distances (in a race anyway, still disagree you'd catch the cat due to other factors). Hence why we should be more impressed by the marathon winner at the Olympics and not the 100 metre winner which always seems to get the main event tag. Whilst impressive, Bolt could be beaten by around 30 animals, whereas only the two I named above would stand a chance against Stephen Kiprotich (2012 Marathon winner, the fact I feel I have to clarify who he is only enforces the point I'm making)

bledd · 11 Mar 2013 at 10:37

Gilly said:
No.

No-one here could.

This

Sheep dogs have a hard time catching cats, of the hundreds of attempted, I've never seen one of ours succeed.

They change direction too quickly.

bledd · 11 Mar 2013 at 10:39

Dimple said:
I've done marathons

Come back when you've done a catathalon :rolleyes:

aln · 11 Mar 2013 at 11:22

estebanrey said:
So by your logic marathon runners should be bigger built than 100 metre runners then eh?

Oh wait they're not, endurance runners are usually as light as possible and 100 metres runners usually have a bodybuilder's build. Do please ask your biologist how that is the case?

You're trying to justify comparing apples to oranges by comparing apples to apples. You are still missing the point bud.

King Damager said:
The problem with trying to catch the cat wouldn't be keeping up with it over a long distance. Try and reach down and grab a cat, and they can be pretty good at being evasive. Then try predicting it's movements, and various other factors, and I think you'd struggle.

Once the animal is exhausted, it will no longer be evasive.