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CES 2025 AMD & Nvidia Keynote Live Chat [06/01/25]

the rtx 40 estore was up before the launch event, strangely though its not the case this time, but since nvidia are calling it a gtc i am hoping this to be a proper launch event
 
Daytrader said:
Well i bought it on a spur at the moment thing on release, then i gradually bought my new pc components over the following year, but i just kept on using my skylake 6700k, 2080 super pc, then when i finally got to use new pc, my dad was hospitalised for 3 months, and now his full time carer, so dont get real time for gaming, and if i do i just use my old skylake pc, new pc was for my oled tv, but because i have hospital bed now in my lounge, i had to move the oled tv out and new pc not used now, anyone that wanted a 4090 would have a true bargain, at the time of buying my new 4090, i turned down offers of like near £3K for it, but was never my intension to buy and sale for profit at the time, they were crazy times.
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How much would you expect to get for a 3/4 year old card ?
 
Leaked slides imply that AMD won't be announcing pricing or release dates. Perhaps a ploy to lower our expectations? Surely they can't announce the cards without concrete pricing and a release date?
 
Octoplex7 said:
Leaked slides imply that AMD won't be announcing pricing or release dates. Perhaps a ploy to lower our expectations? Surely they can't announce the cards without concrete pricing and a release date?
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They done something similar with the 6000 series, they showed it running a game then a few weeks or so later or so announced pricing and release. So wouldn't be the first time.
 
Octoplex7 said:
Leaked slides imply that AMD won't be announcing pricing or release dates. Perhaps a ploy to lower our expectations? Surely they can't announce the cards without concrete pricing and a release date?
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It's impossible for them to announce their price before Nvidia announce theirs and Big Lisa breaks out the calculator to multiply everything by 0.95
 
Octoplex7 said:
Leaked slides imply that AMD won't be announcing pricing or release dates. Perhaps a ploy to lower our expectations? Surely they can't announce the cards without concrete pricing and a release date?
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I mentioned in the AMD thread, but I think they wil release the price and spec. They knew anything they released this morning to the press would be leaked.

If they don't, I'd be surprised and it would be a very big fail.
 
Hostile_18 said:
I mentioned in the AMD thread, but I think they wil release the price and spec. They knew anything they released this morning to the press would be leaked.

If they don't, I'd be surprised and it would be a very big fail.
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I agree that it would be a fail. Considering how much they've narrowed down their product line this gen, they really need to come out with a concise and clear message that they have the most compelling product in its price range. They know what their margin will be and so I'd like to see them come out confidently and throw down a marker. If you have 500 quid to spend, then this is the GPU for you.
 
Octoplex7 said:
I agree that it would be a fail. Considering how much they've narrowed down their product line this gen, they really need to come out with a concise and clear message that they have the most compelling product in its price range. They know what their margin will be and so I'd like to see them come out confidently and throw down a marker. If you have 500 quid to spend, then this is the GPU for you.
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This.

AMD need to play their own game. They don’t need to know nVidia pricing to set their own and pricing based off nVidia is not going to help their cause in their target demographic.
 
Assuming the 5070 is going to be around 600 GBP and be around a 4070 ti with 12 GB of VRAM, AMD have an open goal. 500 quid for a 4080 with 16GB of VRAM should clean up. Or would it? I wonder whether it might need to be closer to 450 GBP (assuming all of those assumptions)?
 
Octoplex7 said:
Assuming the 5070 is going to be around 600 GBP and be around a 4070 ti with 12 GB of VRAM, AMD have an open goal. 500 quid for a 4080 with 16GB of VRAM should clean up. Or would it? I wonder whether it might need to be closer to 450 GBP (assuming all of those assumptions)?
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5070 for 600. I bet you its more like 700
 
dave28 said:
5070 for 600. I bet you its more like 700
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And AMD will sell for 650

My prediction is disappointment overall.

Considering technology normally gets 1 tier lower each gen, 3090 perf is should be the 4080 etc.

The problem is I think AMD will fail on this hard and Nvidia wont pass anything on.

I would expect the new 9800 perf to be around the 7900xtx though we knew this wouldn't happen ages ago, I'm expecting the 9800 to be worse than the 7900XT at a similar price of around 650-700. Basically 0 generational perf/price performance change. I'm expecting AMD to go full Nvidia gloating about RT and FSR4 and using them as excuse to keep the existing pricing going for another 2 years while offering 0 to negligible Rasterisation perf gain, in fact the best card will be worse than the old best card.

Nvidia will just increase everything in price with 0 generational price/performance gain, if the 5080 is 20% faster than the 4080 it will be 20% more expensive I'm expecting that on the 5070 and above, with it being maybe a little more tame on the 5060 though I expect Nvidia will go for the $400 price bracket for the 5060.

If i'm wrong... well I i'm expecting to be wrong in that i'm being too "Generous" in my above expectations and it will be even worse for the consumer.
 
If Nvidia released a 5070 for 700 with 12GB of VRAM and the horsepower of a 4070 ti it would be DOA. That's not say Nvidia would never release a 70 class card for 700...
 
cosmogenesis said:
How much would you expect to get for a 3/4 year old card ?
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Well not sure really, completed listings on fleabay seem to be £1600/£1500, mine for sure would be one of the best 4090's going(powered on for just hours and was in retail box for a year before i even opened it), dont know why they still going for that price.
 
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