Champions League Draw 11:00 Today

Pretty sure Barca will win it again this year unless they play Chelsea and they ruin football again. Nobody is near to Barca in football terms.

They haven't been as convincing this year, they are being over romanticized a tad, sure you could name them favourites but to say nobody is near them? I wouldn't say that.
 
They haven't been as convincing this year, they are being over romanticized a tad, sure you could name them favourites but to say nobody is near them? I wouldn't say that.

Figures-wise they are better this season, less defeats, less conceded and more points (iirc), although I agree they haven't been as spectacular.

Messi has been miles from his best though and Henry is just crap these days which contributes to it.
 
I've watched most of the Barca games this year and for most of the games they appear to just try to score the perfect goal every time, they don't really seem to care that there is an opponent on the field. Some of their play (between Ibra and Messi) has been sensational
 
When doee the african cup of nations start? Chelsea are going to be really under strengthed with Essiena and Drogba going.

Unless MU sort out thier defensive injuries I can see milan causing them a lot of problems. I'm dying to see if they actually have any money or not to buy a decent a defender in January.

I rate Barca thi syear more mainly due to buying Zlatan. Okay hes overrated but now gives them that physical resence in the air and the box they were lacking before when teams put 10 men behind the ball against them. Thier youth players coming through have added an extra edge too; think its Pedro and Basquez(?)
 
I've watched most of the Barca games this year and for most of the games they appear to just try to score the perfect goal every time, they don't really seem to care that there is an opponent on the field. Some of their play (between Ibra and Messi) has been sensational

Do you not find that it's kinda boring watching other football after seeing Barca?

It's just so, different to see a team that have 100% faith in each other, when they play the ball to each other they pass it hard and fast, and don't seem to care if there are other players near them.

Barca completely dominate teams and don't seem bothered about getting 5/6 they just want one, good goal.
 
There's nothing that compares to watching Barcelona for any true football fan, they're about as good a footballing team that has ever existed. A treat to watch. I truly enjoy watching what they do, to me it's perfection and exactly the way I'd play if I was a football player/managed a team, they live out my vision of football.
 
I agree, as a football fan I don't see how anyone could pick fault with Barca or the way they play football.

The beautiful game.

I did enjoy Tim "I've lost all professionalism" Lovejoy when Barca knocked Chelsea out last season, ranting about how they only play one way (pretty effective way though ;))
 
[ASSE]Hinchy;15552547 said:
Isn't Hulk garbage? Sure he scored a nice goal in one of their latest Champions League games but his record isn't that great and I don't recall him ever having done something particularly brilliant.

BUT HE'S CALLED HULK! :cool:
 
There's obvious pros and cons to only playing one way (Barca's way). There are very few tall, powerful and muscular players who have the technique of Iniesta/Xavi/Messi etc, it seems that the players with low centres of gravity can have excellent technique if trained properly. The pros are that it's beautiful to watch, even if it doesn't work every single time, who really cares when you're being entertained anyway? It's a very romantic ideal to just play one way and stuff everybody else, it's a bit arrogant but I love it.

With Ibra there is a definite improvement up front, he is excellent at holding the ball up or distributing play, much, much better than Eto'o was. I was a critic of the fee they paid for Ibra (still am) but I have to admit that he really has come into his own and is very, very good in this Barca team. He will allow them to play different ways now when they need to, but to be honest I can only really think of one team that can defend against their normal triangle play and that's Chelsea.
 
[ASSE]Hinchy;15552547 said:
Isn't Hulk garbage? Sure he scored a nice goal in one of their latest Champions League games but his record isn't that great and I don't recall him ever having done something particularly brilliant.

He's not very good at all, Porto would have you believe he's worth £40m or something when he's really worth about £10m tops
 
There's obvious pros and cons to only playing one way (Barca's way). There are very few tall, powerful and muscular players who have the technique of Iniesta/Xavi/Messi etc, it seems that the players with low centres of gravity can have excellent technique if trained properly. The pros are that it's beautiful to watch, even if it doesn't work every single time, who really cares when you're being entertained anyway? It's a very romantic ideal to just play one way and stuff everybody else, it's a bit arrogant but I love it.

With Ibra there is a definite improvement up front, he is excellent at holding the ball up or distributing play, much, much better than Eto'o was. I was a critic of the fee they paid for Ibra (still am) but I have to admit that he really has come into his own and is very, very good in this Barca team. He will allow them to play different ways now when they need to, but to be honest I can only really think of one team that can defend against their normal triangle play and that's Chelsea.

I agree, I think also it's down to the coaching / way young players are taught to play football at a club like Barca, and just in general, they're taught that its not about been the fastest, strongest, you can make up for this with good feet.

Playing one way is an arrogant way of playing, but it's winning them things at the moment.

Eto'o wasn't a all round striker though was he? He was a goal scorer? iirc scored 30 goals a season for a fair few years didn't he?

I can't see the sense in the money they paid for Ibra as well, but I admit he's brought a lot more to the table then Eto'o could. He's a head for all those Dani Alves crosses :D He's just a immensly talented footballer, who like Messi got slated by Andy Gray "because he doesn't do it against English clubs" :D
 
I agree, I think also it's down to the coaching / way young players are taught to play football at a club like Barca, and just in general, they're taught that its not about been the fastest, strongest, you can make up for this with good feet.

Playing one way is an arrogant way of playing, but it's winning them things at the moment.

Eto'o wasn't a all round striker though was he? He was a goal scorer? iirc scored 30 goals a season for a fair few years didn't he?

I can't see the sense in the money they paid for Ibra as well, but I admit he's brought a lot more to the table then Eto'o could. He's a head for all those Dani Alves crosses :D He's just a immensly talented footballer, who like Messi got slated by Andy Gray "because he doesn't do it against English clubs" :D

Yeah to be honest, the game is football and it should be decided by how good you are with the ball at your feet, I have always thought that. Over the last few years though pace and power have really taken over and all people care about is how tall and physically strong your team are (see the papers every day criticising Arsenal, it's pathetic). Sometimes I wonder if they're confusing football with rugby.

Yeah Eto'o was a goal scorer and I probably worded my post wrong, I think they're a more complete strike force now, whether or not they're better is hard to tell.

Ibra has caught me by surprise a bit, he seems to be at the same level as Messi in terms of vision, touch and movement. They're on the same page and I'd probably soil myself if I had to play against them. Still, what they paid for him was just too much for any footballer and I'll maintain that ..
 
Yeah to be honest, the game is football and it should be decided by how good you are with the ball at your feet, I have always thought that. Over the last few years though pace and power have really taken over and all people care about is how tall and physically strong your team are (see the papers every day criticising Arsenal, it's pathetic). Sometimes I wonder if they're confusing football with rugby.

Yeah Eto'o was a goal scorer and I probably worded my post wrong, I think they're a more complete strike force now, whether or not they're better is hard to tell.

Ibra has caught me by surprise a bit, he seems to be at the same level as Messi in terms of vision, touch and movement. They're on the same page and I'd probably soil myself if I had to play against them. Still, what they paid for him was just too much for any footballer and I'll maintain that ..

Football is about football, playing with the ball at your feet. The beautiful game.

It's the English game has become so obsessed with money and winning they often sacrifice football for results. It's a sad thing for English football, and while we don't give English youth better coaching, while we still rely on bringing in people from elsewhere (who have been coached better) the English game will continue to be between a rock and hard place.

Yeah, Ibra and Messi are on the same wave length :cool: Sometimes you just wonder how they know where each other are (same goes for other players at Barca)

Ibra was too expensive, he's always been a very good player but Barca are just starting to bring the best out of him, he showed a few times what he could do at other clubs. Still he's not "done it against English teams" so he can't be that good can he :rolleyes: :p
 
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