Baz my point is that a transfer fee should only be assessed after the player has finished playing for the club. He has just finished his second season disrupted by injuries and missing preseason with the team. This debate came up when Carrick was signed, nobody mentions it now as we've just won 3 Premier League titles in a row and are on the verge of back to back Champions League titles (should we win) which I'm sure has brought the club more than enough money to have covered his initial fee.
Which is why i said 'as yet'
Also I don't think you can base a players value on team success. We've just had our most successful season in a long time and of our 3 first team signings, 2 turned out to be utter ****e.