Cheats should be available following inactivity on PC games

Jae-So said:
can't find any trainers lol, am I just blind?
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You have to go into the game you need cheats for and scroll to the bottom, or just CTRL+F Trainer :D


Kenai said:
No, that's not what he's saying, he never mentioned skipping anything? :confused:

His remedy is to have cheats, so if you get stuck at 58% through a game and you just can't get past a certain bit you can flick on God Mode or infinite ammo or something and carry on playing the game.

Some people just aren't particularly good or don't have the time or inclination to replay a difficult part many many times, everyone is different, so if some people want 'cheats' so they can have an easier time of things and see all the content they've paid for, who are you to say otherwise?

It's an entirely optional thing and would have absolutely zero negative impact on your own gaming experience, so what does it matter?
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When I got to the first 'Boss' in Diddy Kong Racing, it took me almost a whole 2 days to beat him.. I just couldn't hit the boosts! Perseverance, determination and sheer rage got me through in the end..

It still makes my soul ache when I think about it!

I even completed all of the time trials, back-to-front so I could win TT...
 
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In most cases the worst part of games are "bosses" and "the ending". The fun bit is before this, play through it on easy if you have to, otherwise you're doing it wrong :).

Oh, and obligatory lolbritboy
 
Kenai said:
Some people just aren't particularly good or don't have the time or inclination to replay a difficult part many many times, everyone is different, so if some people want 'cheats' so they can have an easier time of things and see all the content they've paid for, who are you to say otherwise?

It's an entirely optional thing and would have absolutely zero negative impact on your own gaming experience, so what does it matter?
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I feel sorry that I've got an opinion now... I didn't realise I'd be judged for it. :o I wasn't aware that it not affecting me directly meant I wasn't permitted to comment.

I just feel that if you're going to cheat yourself out of the experience of actually playing the game, then why bother in the first place? You may as well watch a film and save yourself the now unfulfilling and over easy gameplay between cutscenes.

It used to be that you were rewarded with an ending for actually completing a game, and sometimes the "better" ending for completing a game on the hardest difficulty. Can't manage? Hard luck. :p

I'd like to see less hand holding in SP games rather than more, particuarly when it's offered to you when you're struggling as a way out. Each to their own though.

Don't wish it was easier, wish you were better at it.
 
orderoftheflame said:
I feel sorry that I've got an opinion now... I didn't realise I'd be judged for it. :o I wasn't aware that it not affecting me directly meant I wasn't permitted to comment.

I just feel that if you're going to cheat yourself out of the experience of actually playing the game, then why bother in the first place? You may as well watch a film and save yourself the now unfulfilling and over easy gameplay between cutscenes.

It used to be that you were rewarded with an ending for actually completing a game, and sometimes the "better" ending for completing a game on the hardest difficulty. Can't manage? Hard luck. :p

I'd like to see less hand holding in SP games rather than more, particuarly when it's offered to you when you're struggling as a way out. Each to their own though.

Don't wish it was easier, wish you were better at it.
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I never said you couldn't comment, I was challenging your comments as I disagree with you.

As I say in my first post, everyone is different - maybe 'the challenge' isn't why some people buy games? Maybe that's not their primary motivator for getting a game? Or maybe some people are more than challenged by even the easy mode? Should these people not be allowed to play a game through to the finish because they're not very good at games?

I really just don't understand why people would get annoyed by optional cheats being present in a game, why does it bother you? You don't have to use them but they may add huge value to other customers, what's wrong with that?

Whilst 'wish you were better' is a wonderful ideal, when it comes to leisure activities, not everyone necessarily has the time or desire to get 'better'.
 
More I think about this the more I agree with him. I have less and less time to play games with having a wife and two young children. Their are games which I would love to buy but because of the game time one would need to invest to complete them I do not bother to buy them in the first place.

Their are not many games that you can change the difficulty on the fly so you would need to restart which can be off putting.
 
Kenai said:
Whilst 'wish you were better' is a wonderful ideal, when it comes to leisure activities, not everyone necessarily has the time or desire to get 'better'.
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**** that, **** that right in its eye.

If they don't have the time, then that's life.

Difficulty levels were invented for a reason, put it on easy mode if you find the game too hard.

And if the easiest level is still too hard, consider picking up a new past time or a new genre of video game that caters to babies.

:D :D
 
While I'm not a fan of cheats I would liek to see something that picks up when the last time you played was. Something like 'Would you like a brief run through of the controls and the story again as it's been several months since you last played?'. Sometimes I go back to games months later and it takes me ages to get back into the 'groove'.
 
LeJosh said:
**** that, **** that right in its eye.

If they don't have the time, then that's life.

Difficulty levels were invented for a reason, put it on easy mode if you find the game too hard.

And if the easiest level is still too hard, consider picking up a new past time or a new genre of video game that caters to babies.

:D :D
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So some people shouldn't be allowed to enjoy games because you don't want optional cheats that you don't even have to use?

Why? Why does that bother you so much that you'd rather other people miss out?

I'm genuinely confused why this even bothers people at all, let alone to the point they're expressing they'd rather other people should miss out entirely. It doesn't affect you at all, so why does it even matter to you?

Hell, loads of games already have these cheats in anyway

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Urm, I said none of that. :confused:

Just that difficulty levels are there for a reason, they can cheat all they want but it makes the experience redundant in my opinion.

No sense of achievement at the end. Just "oh that's pretty" at the FMV.

And there are many games out there that can be finished by people at all skill levels. And I did not express that I want them to miss out.
 
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LeJosh said:
Urm, I said none of that. :confused:

Just that difficult levels are there for a reason, they can cheat all they want but it makes the experience redundant in my opinion.

No sense of achievement at the end. Just "oh that's pretty" at the FMV.

And there are many games out there that can be finished by people at all skill levels. And I did not express that I want them to miss out.
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You said if people found easy too hard, they should consider finding a new hobby, that sounds like 'missing out' to me, I dunno about you.

Why should people find a new hobby just because their abilities don't stack up to your accepted standards?

I still don't get why anyone would be even the slightest bit bothered by the presence of cheats in a game for people to use if they want to, whether it's because they find it hard, or they don't have time, or they just plain enjoy messing around with God mode on, whatever, I just do not understand the negative reaction at all.
 
You're presuming too much of my opinion. I don't care if cheats are there or not but if you find the easiest mode: "hard." Then it's time to look at a different game. There are thousands of games out there, they won't miss out at all.

I don't have an accepted standard of difficulty, I play casual + serious games with my girlfriend a lot, but she's never had the notion to cheat if the game was too hard: just to go ahead and turn the difficulty down or just to stop playing. :p

I feel that cheats are a fun thing once you've completed the game, ala, GTA. Or just to have a laugh with friends. But to progress through the story, turn the difficulty down, think about what you're doing wrong and try and correct that mistake.

I'm sure you'll pick holes in what I just said but I feel that using cheats to progress is redundant. Having fun with them isn't a problem once you've played the game to the marrow. :p
 
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LeJosh said:
You're presuming too much of my opinion. I don't care if cheats are there or not but if you find the easiest mode: "hard." Then it's time to look at a different game. There are thousands of games out there, they won't miss out at all.

I don't have an accepted standard of difficulty, I play casual + serious games with my girlfriend a lot, but she's never had the notion to cheat if the game was too hard: just to go ahead and turn the difficulty down or just to stop playing. :p

I feel that cheats are a fun thing once you've completed the game, ala, GTA. Or just to have a laugh with friends. But to progress through the story, turn the difficulty down, think about what you're doing wrong and try and correct that mistake.

I'm sure you'll pick holes in what I just said but I feel that using cheats to progress is redundant. Having fun with them isn't a problem once you've played the game to the marrow. :p
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I don't see why people should have to give up on seeing a game through to completion just because they find it too hard. They probably bought that game because that's the game they wanted to play and enjoy. If they find it too hard, I don't see that they should have to move on to the next game rather than just turn on God mode for a bit.

I don't expect everyone here to find satisfaction and fulfilment by cheating through a game but ultimately, if someone else does, I don't see the harm and thus the reaction from people on here that they should take up new hobbies or watch games on YouTube instead.

What does it matter to anyone else whether someone uses a cheat to progress in a single player game? whether you would find it redundant is neither here nor there frankly is it, you're not the person playing the game who wants to use the cheat.

I'm just confused really why people seem so against an idea that has absolutely no impact on themselves.
 
It would surely be easier to just build cheats into the game as standard which I thought most games had anyway? There's no reason to build a time delay into it. I personally don't use them but when I was younger I had a friend who would often get stuck on games and this would definitely make him enjoy the game more. As it was he used to get me to go round to help him :p
 
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