Chemical attack in London...

How is it possible this guy was dumb enough to wonder through Kings Cross Station, surely one of the most cctv'd areas in the world and still hasn't been caught? He can't be that hard to spot!
 
Zatoichi.uK said:
How is it possible this guy was dumb enough to wonder through Kings Cross Station, surely one of the most cctv'd areas in the world and still hasn't been caught? He can't be that hard to spot!
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Having eyes everywhere doesn't mean much if you still have to manually review the whole thing by hand and London is hardly small.
 
Werewolf said:
This may be surprising but actually reviewing CCTV footage takes a lot of time and effort unless you are able to track the person from one camera to another and you have access to every system straight away. Once you lose track of someone for just a few minutes it becomes massively harder to do it.
Also most CCTV isn't aimed at the "public" but like in that footage the likes of doorways and access points to buildings.

Oddly the police don't have the thousands of staff available to just go and look at random CCTV footage from everywhere around the last sighting, and they don't have automatic access to the systems.

So yes, there is a delay because in many cases it's the owners/operators of the cameras who are going through the footage at their own time or when the police request it and have a rough timeframe.

I've got a couple of CCTV cameras, not top quality but pretty good and I've done searches for specific events that happened overnight and it can easily take an hour or more to review ~8 hours of footage from a single one if you're looking for something specific, potentially longer depending on what you're looking for, the quality of the camera, lighting and angle/area covered. Even "motion detection" doesn't help much if say it's a busy road, or worse, it's raining, and you're limited in how fast you can run through it by things like how wide a field of view the camera has and what you're looking for (so 4-8 times max in my case, then taking it to 1x or slower to actually get a good look).

IIRC after a murder a few years back the police followed the killers via CCTV and I think it came out that they'd reviewed some utterly vast number of hours of footage to get the timeline of about 4 hours, as every time they hit a blackspot in footage or the suspect went out of sight of the cameras for a second they basically had to start looking at all the local cameras where they had lost them (I can't remember how much they reviewed but it was well into the tens of thousands of hours).
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Yup, we had an officer round last year looking for footage from our camera (looking for a car driving past) - problem was, the incident they were looking for was 3 weeks prior, and our system starts overwriting after ~10 days >_<

Obviously an incident like this is going to be much higher priority than a vehicle theft, but when the last sighting is somewhere which has multiple "exits" then that's potentially hundreds of doors needing to be knocked on, (hoping the owners are there and the system is working) and thousands of hours of camera footage needing to be reviewed.
 
Zatoichi.uK said:
How is it possible this guy was dumb enough to wonder through Kings Cross Station, surely one of the most cctv'd areas in the world and still hasn't been caught? He can't be that hard to spot!
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"Police also confirmed Ezedi was last seen leaving Tower Hill underground station" his being protected by people, who are the biggest group of people in the Borough of Tower Hamlets??
 
Richard - London said:
"Police also confirmed Ezedi was last seen leaving Tower Hill underground station" his being protected by people, who are the biggest group of people in the Borough of Tower Hamlets??
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Disability in Tower Hamlets​

Tower Hamlets saw England's joint second-largest percentage-point fall (alongside Hackney) in the proportion of residents who were identified as being disabled and limited a lot (from 14.0% in 2011 to 10.4% in 2021). These are age-standardised proportions.

Trying to reverse the trend?
 
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They will have facial recognition, but as he has a face injury they probably can't just rely on an algorithm to do their job for them this time.
 
Some Updates:
We've just had an update from the Metropolitan Police about their manhunt for Abdul Shokoor Ezedi, which is in its fifth day.

If you missed it, or need a recap, here are six key things we learnt:

  • A 22-year-old man was arrested this morning for assisting an offender - he was interviewed by police in south London and later released on bail
  • The 31-year-old mother, attacked with a corrosive substance on Wednesday, has facial injuries that will impact her for the rest of her life - police say she may lose sight in her right eye
  • Ezedi was last seen in the Southwark Bridge area of London at 21:50 GMT on Wednesday - a little more than two hours after the attack
  • Police say they are not currently searching the River Thames for Ezedi
  • The motive behind the attack is still unclear, but police say Ezedi is not the father of the children he's also accused of attacking
  • Police are combing through hundreds of hours of CCTV footage to discover Ezedi's whereabouts - they say he's been using a bank card to move around London's tube network, but it hasn't been used since late on Wednesday
 
Nasher said:
They will have facial recognition, but as he has a face injury they probably can't just rely on an algorithm to do their job for them this time.
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I was reading this morning that the police can't find him because he is being protected by an organised crime group, speculation is he was working for them on other matters, and whilst he has no money, is too valuable or important to hand over to the police.

Seems plausible as they cant find him.
 
martin363 said:
I was reading this morning that the police can't find him because he is being protected by an organised crime group, speculation is he was working for them on other matters, and whilst he has no money, is too valuable or important to hand over to the police.

Seems plausible as they cant find him.
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Well he's accustom to dodging borders and dealing with criminals so I guess that make sense.
 
martin363 said:
I was reading this morning that the police can't find him because he is being protected by an organised crime group, speculation is he was working for them on other matters, and whilst he has no money, is too valuable or important to hand over to the police.
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seems possible he’s being helped and hidden but you’d think at this point, where he’s basically the most wanted man in the country, that no individuals or organisations would want the attention and risk that assisting someone like him will draw.

Either that or said crime groups themselves would be looking to “get rid of him” for fear of the impact it would have on them!
 
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silvagti said:
seems possible he’s being helped and hidden but you’d think at this point, where he’s basically the most wanted man in the country, that no individuals or organisations would want the attention and risk that assisting someone like him will draw.

Either that or said crime groups themselves would be looking to “get rid of him” for fear of the impact it would have on them!
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Yep, he's either being hidden or dead. How he's dead is either suicide or killed by other elements. Either way he's done for
 
martin363 said:
I was reading this morning that the police can't find him because he is being protected by an organised crime group, speculation is he was working for them on other matters, and whilst he has no money, is too valuable or important to hand over to the police.

Seems plausible as they cant find him.
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more than likely that a mosque has taken him in and protecting him........... wouldn't surprise me at all, if that is the case it would be interesting to see how the media or government will deal with announcing it.
 
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FishThrower said:
more than likely that a mosque has taken him in and protecting him........... wouldn't surprise me at all, if that is the case it would be interesting to see how the media or government will deal with announcing it.
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If they don't announce that this has happened, that will just be evidence of a cover up

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