China's Olympic Impression

IIRC, the fireworks weren't faked; they simply weren't live.

Meanwhile, certain western media stations pass off delayed broadcasts as "live" coverage.

I don't have a problem with cloud-seeding; just common sense, tbh. Better than a washout.
 
The simple fact is that London will be hard pushed to compare as will any subsequent games. The English are born whingers and the fact that they already are merely compounds the fact. It's pathetic.
But will it not be unfair to compare the London ceremony against one what would appear to have been orchestrated in such a way to mislead people?

EDIT: and don't bring politics into it - it's the Olympics not a Free Tibet demonstration forum.
Do the Chinese themselves not highlight the issues in Tibet and human rights by acting in such a way that they try to eradicate all mention of the subjects?
 
What about tradition?

Burnsy
Not really sure how that counts here. The remit for the Chinese opening ceremony was to be spectacular, it sure was.

Using available and modern technology to add spectacle to their ceremony deserves some recognition imo, plus - given the pollution in Beijing, surely the fact that they didn't release that many fireworks is a good thing?
 
But will it not be unfair to compare the London ceremony against one what would appear to have been orchestrated in such a way to mislead people?

EDIT: and don't bring politics into it - it's the Olympics not a Free Tibet demonstration forum.
Do the Chinese themselves not highlight the issues in Tibet and human rights by acting in such a way that they try to eradicate all mention of the subjects?[/QUOTE]

Don't get me wrong, I firmly believe that every single person responsible for perpetrating the atrocities against the Tibetans should be strung up then drawn and quartered but I firmly believe that the Olympics should never be the forum for it. The Olympics is neutral ground and should always be treated as such.

Re: the orchestrating of the production - thats what a production is - smoke and mirrors - as long as kittens and children aren't being killed to get the special effects who cares how it is achieved.
 
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I'm getting a bit fed up with all the introverted whining and lack of optimism regarding British exploits by British people. I'm sure it's stemmed from our self-hating media but it really gets my goat.

What's happened to the British can-do attitude that has made us one of (if not) the greatest nations ever. I don't mind a bit of stiff-upper-lipped modesty but it's gone past that now to simple self contempt.

Best example I can think of is the BBC website coverage of our two girls who won gold and bronze in the 200m swimming. These two girls represented us in front of the rest of the world, against the best that the rest of the world has to offer and they wiped the floor with the competition. All the BBC website could say was "It's a shame the flag was upside down for the photo shoot". It really winds me up. Instead of celebrating a fantastic victory all we can do is nit-pick about the smallest inconsequential details.

/Rant over

As for China I loved the opening ceremony and couldn't care less if the fireworks weren't live or the little girl mimed the song. It was still an amazing spectacle.

Panzer
 
I'm getting a bit fed up with all the introverted whining and lack of optimism regarding British exploits by British people. I'm sure it's stemmed from our self-hating media but it really gets my goat.

What's happened to the British can-do attitude that has made us one of (if not) the greatest nations ever. I don't mind a bit of stiff-upper-lipped modesty but it's gone past that now to simple self contempt.

Best example I can think of is the BBC website coverage of our two girls who won gold and bronze in the 200m swimming. These two girls represented us in front of the rest of the world, against the best that the rest of the world has to offer and they wiped the floor with the competition. All the BBC website could say was "It's a shame the flag was upside down for the photo shoot". It really winds me up. Instead of celebrating a fantastic victory all we can do is nit-pick about the smallest inconsequential details.

/Rant over

As for China I loved the opening ceremony and couldn't care less if the fireworks weren't live or the little girl mimed the song. It was still an amazing spectacle.

Panzer

Eggzakery - I whole heartedly agree.
 
I'm getting a bit fed up with all the introverted whining and lack of optimism regarding British exploits by British people. I'm sure it's stemmed from our self-hating media but it really gets my goat.

What's happened to the British can-do attitude that has made us one of (if not) the greatest nations ever. I don't mind a bit of stiff-upper-lipped modesty but it's gone past that now to simple self contempt.

Best example I can think of is the BBC website coverage of our two girls who won gold and bronze in the 200m swimming. These two girls represented us in front of the rest of the world, against the best that the rest of the world has to offer and they wiped the floor with the competition. All the BBC website could say was "It's a shame the flag was upside down for the photo shoot". It really winds me up. Instead of celebrating a fantastic victory all we can do is nit-pick about the smallest inconsequential details.

/Rant over

As for China I loved the opening ceremony and couldn't care less if the fireworks weren't live or the little girl mimed the song. It was still an amazing spectacle.

Panzer

Well it wont be surprising if the british one in 4 years time is a complete farce, they ballsed up the logo and they'll balls up the event.
 
Its people like Phelps who are making the Olympics what it is - sure China have messed with the fireworks by doing some of them in CGI for the TV, filling seats with volunteers, miming singers etc..

But ultimatley its the competitors and the history being made which make it stand out, and theres no shortage of that in Bejing at the moment..
 
Now the logo - that is an extreme pile of steaming doggy doo. Unbelievable that it was accepted.


When i think about how that logo was presented I just picture from 45 year old woman in glasses, rejected from the apprentice, standing in an office clicking her fingers and saying "it's hip , it's cool, i's down with the kids" and some old people nodding and agreeing :(
 
I'm getting a bit fed up with all the introverted whining and lack of optimism regarding British exploits by British people. I'm sure it's stemmed from our self-hating media but it really gets my goat.

What's happened to the British can-do attitude that has made us one of (if not) the greatest nations ever. I don't mind a bit of stiff-upper-lipped modesty but it's gone past that now to simple self contempt.

Hear hear!

First minute or so = relevant

"Where will we park?!!?"
 

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Tbh. For a nation with so much architectural heritage, our stadium is a complete disappointment for me. Also considering that concept art usually looks more stunning than the real thing, this is not looking spectacular.

I'm sure a lot of it is down to the costs involved: iirc our stadium above will cost £500m (it's so going to be higher nearer the time of completion)- £500m for a practically temporary stadium. Disgraceful.
Actually, technically its nothing short of amazing, the fact that it uses sommin like 60% less supporting structures to leave more open space not filled with beams and weight supporting posts is pretty amazing.

Also the whole stadium is risen from the ground, tho youneed to see the surrounding level more to get how this looks.

Persoanlly Ithink the Bejing one is the one that will look awful in about 5 years time.
 
Would anyone else be surprised if the Chinese athletes were found to be involved in a doping scandal knowingly or otherwise?
 
I wouldnt be surprised if there's a tribute to 1966 even although that was the World Cup win and nothing to do with the Olympics haha!
 
I'm getting a bit fed up with all the introverted whining and lack of optimism regarding British exploits by British people. I'm sure it's stemmed from our self-hating media but it really gets my goat.

What's happened to the British can-do attitude that has made us one of (if not) the greatest nations ever. I don't mind a bit of stiff-upper-lipped modesty but it's gone past that now to simple self contempt.

Best example I can think of is the BBC website coverage of our two girls who won gold and bronze in the 200m swimming. These two girls represented us in front of the rest of the world, against the best that the rest of the world has to offer and they wiped the floor with the competition. All the BBC website could say was "It's a shame the flag was upside down for the photo shoot". It really winds me up. Instead of celebrating a fantastic victory all we can do is nit-pick about the smallest inconsequential details.

/Rant over

As for China I loved the opening ceremony and couldn't care less if the fireworks weren't live or the little girl mimed the song. It was still an amazing spectacle.

Panzer

I totally agree with you but I do feel a bit let down since I am a Chinese living in the UK...
 
As far as I'm aware the ones you saw on TV were CGI.

Burnsy

Yep the ones on TV were CGI but in Beijing they were actually going off, something to do with weather conditions & the helicopter not able to get them all in sequence properly for a proper camera shot.


That didn't bother me really, I thought they put on an amazing show & other countries will have a hard time to top it. I don't believe England can at all. Not to say we won't put on a nice show but we won't beat the Chinese in terms of technology & performance.
 
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