Chinese Grand Prix 2011, Shanghai International Circuit - Race 3/19

Haiku said:
He just got a lot unluckier.
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Meh, average driver flukes into the best car for a couple years, gets a huge amount of press attention, money, status for winning races he otherwise wouldn't be capable of.

If he were in any other car he'd be poo, I'd say a very very average driver fluking into such a good car is great for him.

Look at the kind of cash Button is on now, and a title, and how good people think he is now, I'd call Webber anything but unlucky.
 
So what are the odds of Webber having an accident tomorrow then?

Don't rant at the FIA Technical Representative Mark, who knows what he can find wrong with your car. ;)
 
drunkenmaster said:
Meh, average driver flukes into the best car for a couple years, gets a huge amount of press attention, money, status for winning races he otherwise wouldn't be capable of.

If he were in any other car he'd be poo, I'd say a very very average driver fluking into such a good car is great for him.

Look at the kind of cash Button is on now, and a title, and how good people think he is now, I'd call Webber anything but unlucky.
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Kinda agree but wouldn't compare him with button as he has always done well with whats he's given
 
Alonso's hot lap was stuffed when the red flag came out. Was on a brand new set of soft tyres and just gone into the 3rd sector when the flag came out.

Shame....


:D
 
elmuzzy66. said:
Kinda agree but wouldn't compare him with button as he has always done well with whats he's given
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I don't think either are bad drivers, at all, just, they aren't and weren't ever, even close to "so" good that a dominant team would ever go "button, we have to have him" certainly not with Webber. Those two unless the team magically becomes the best car after they join, they aren't in with title shots. While Ferrari pawned everyone for years neither would ever have been bought in even as a second driver.

IN that sense going to an "average" team and have the team become great is about as lucky as you can get.

I don't think Webber is getting a lot of luck this year, but I think he's just slow, and struggling with Kers(when he has it) when both the RB's didn't have Kers Vettel still blew Webber away.

Thing is he firmly established himself as the second driver in that team last year, if they can only get one kers unit working it should go to Vettel. If they believe they have two wings one new and one old, the top driver gets to choose, thats life.

The slow wing in that situation should still be on comftably the second fastest card on the grid and Webber is still sucking balls with his driving.
 
Flibster said:
Alonso's hot lap was stuffed when the red flag came out. Was on a brand new set of soft tyres and just gone into the 3rd sector when the flag came out.

Shame....


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They said the Mclarens used the same softs end of Q1 and beginning Q2, while Alonso used 2 sets in q1, well, actually not sure, they might have used the same set twice. They should be on at least their third set by now though when they come back out. Same happened last week, so many teams ran softs basically right through qualifying.

I still can't comprehend this "Hamilton didn't save his tyres" stuff from the last race. It HAD to be tactical to use three sets of hards, had to be, and the only reason I can think is they had a problem and hoped one stop would drag them to the end of the race saving some pit stops.



Button, Hamilton, Vettel, they can't come back out, theres basically 2-3 cards that have a second in the bag through using softs, the top, what, well the whole top 10 did times on softs anyway and theres only 4 cars within a second of 1st, complete waste of tyres if any of them go out.

Considering blocking/time issues these guys will all be screwing each others laps up completely anyway.
 
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