Chinese Grand Prix 2011, Shanghai International Circuit - Race 3/19

The problem is that in certain instances it can be in a drivers interest to take another one out of the race , and the stewards / FIA arent always the best at being consistant with the penalties for doing it

senna and prost for example or vettel and webber or vettel and button
 
Just using points from a 1st place finish there are still 425 points available for drivers who get to stand on the middle podium this year, Vettel has 50 points... kind of early to make such statements.

If Ferrari were about to turn the corner and about to release a car which was faster (or as fast) as the RBR car, I would agree with you.

My belief is that the gap in points between Alonso and Vettel is going to increase as the season progresses.

For the next few GPs, Vettel should be able to pick up 25 points/race. The car really is "that far" ahead of the competition. On merit, Alonso should be picking up 4th or 5th place (behind the 2 McLarens/RBRs).

The gap is going to get a lot bigger before it begins to shrink (if it shrinks at all).
 
MSC and DH for example.

I was thinking further back to Senna /Prost lol but your exapmle does just as well :)

Nowadays its just as likely during the season imo, rather than just in the last race or two (with more emphesis being put on finishing as many times as possible, anyone with a known faulty car could be tempted to damage a competitor's front wing for example to force an extra pit stop or worse)

If Ferrari were about to turn the corner and about to release a car which was faster (or as fast) as the RBR car, I would agree with you.

My belief is that the gap in points between Alonso and Vettel is going to increase as the season progresses.

For the next few GPs, Vettel should be able to pick up 25 points/race. The car really is "that far" ahead of the competition. On merit, Alonso should be picking up 4th or 5th place (behind the 2 McLarens/RBRs).

The gap is going to get a lot bigger before it begins to shrink (if it shrinks at all).

The slight hope that you have to consider is that with suspected fewer tyre stops this weekend, Vettel could end up behind a slow car for longer, holding him back (was it Massa for a little while last weekend?). Obviouosly this can happen to anyone else also......

It would be good to see the ultimate tyre wear of the Ferrari / McLaren / RB - just to see IF this is still a small issue for RB (I know it was a couple of years ago that RB had an issue with this in a few races, so it could have been designed out of the car by now but it would be nice to know either way)
 
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If Ferrari were about to turn the corner and about to release a car which was faster (or as fast) as the RBR car, I would agree with you.

My belief is that the gap in points between Alonso and Vettel is going to increase as the season progresses.

For the next few GPs, Vettel should be able to pick up 25 points/race. The car really is "that far" ahead of the competition. On merit, Alonso should be picking up 4th or 5th place (behind the 2 McLarens/RBRs).

The gap is going to get a lot bigger before it begins to shrink (if it shrinks at all).

I honestly think McLaren will damage the lead and give others time to catch up. That in itself is another problem, I reckon while tyres are a problem the wrong driver in McLaren is going to slip ahead and won't be able to deliver results later on in the season.

I still think its mostly a damn shame Kubica isn't sat in that Renault.
 
aye its a pitty webber isnt getting even equipment or he might have been able to take a lot of points from vettel and give everyone a chance again.

like webber not having kers last race he clearly stated that lol ands marko tried to tell some ex f1 driver live on tv webber had kers, he walked off when it was mentioned webber said he didnt have kers ..

lmao you can't be serious.
why not? vettel clearly took webber out
 
Did RBR explain why Vettel had KERS (at the start of the race) and why Webber had no KERS?

Not having KERS at the race start, really hurt Webber's race.

dont think they ever did... marko just insisted webber had kers then walked away when he was told that webber said he didnt have kers at any point :rolleyes:

it was lauda marko was talking to live on tv btw i think for RTL then after marko walked off lauda said "weve basicly just been lied to" lol
 
Oh behave :rolleyes:

No offence to you nuTs. I appreciate your posting in this forum, it's great to have someone from within a team posting here.

If I were in your position I'd be elated to be winning all these races! I just bloody hate it when things get so predictable each weekend,
 
No offence to you nuTs. I appreciate your posting in this forum, it's great to have someone from within a team posting here.

If I were in your position I'd be elated to be winning all these races! I just bloody hate it when things get so predictable each weekend,

Thing is, i know you are a 50/50 fan. To you it isnt the end of the world like some others, me included. It is far from predictable, can i just get this clear once and for all. Your idea of predictable is 300 lads working their asses off, giving up weekends etc.

Whilst you are at the pub or at a mates, these guys [ a lot of my friends] are working their asses off.They dont get Saturdays or Sundays, this isnt a rarity, this is everyday in F1. Please dont think there are 600 guys sitting on their asses, this isnt true.




Now the personal bit.

I love most of you guys to bits, some of you have very interesting ideas as to how F1 works [Sunama} Some of you are so far away, its comical, also Sunama! but, most of you are partly correct lol. I really cant post anymore.
 
It is far from predictable, can i just get this clear once and for all.

I believe that Vettel has won 5 of the last 6 races. Had his car not broken down, it would've been 6 out of the last 6.

You may not think those statistics define "predictable", but in F1, that's as close as you are going to get to predictable.

The fact is that the RBR team are in zone right now.

I find it very strange that despite all this success (and this is what RBR have been working hard for), that an employee of this very successful team can be complaining.
 
Im not complaining, we have put in massive amounts of time over the [closed season] winter, we have looked at what Mclaren are doing, we have looked at what Ferrari are doing, we have even looked at what Mercedes are doing, ok, i jest, who cares what Brawn,Honda are doing?


We are still piling in the work. Oh look say F1 magazines, MCL have a big upgrade....do you think Red Bull are sitting looking at MCL waiting for them to catch up?????

Do you not think we are also working on upgrades?
 
Aye. Had this conversation with my boss today. Where as there might be just hundreds of people that would love to do the job he does. There are millions of people that would like to work in F1 regardless of the time spent away (not everyone has or misses family or their country) - certainly not saying its easy mind.
 
Thing is, i know you are a 50/50 fan. To you it isnt the end of the world like some others, me included. It is far from predictable, can i just get this clear once and for all. Your idea of predictable is 300 lads working their asses off, giving up weekends etc.

Whilst you are at the pub or at a mates, these guys [ a lot of my friends] are working their asses off.They dont get Saturdays or Sundays, this isnt a rarity, this is everyday in F1. Please dont think there are 600 guys sitting on their asses, this isnt true.




Now the personal bit.

I love most of you guys to bits, some of you have very interesting ideas as to how F1 works [Sunama} Some of you are so far away, its comical, also Sunama! but, most of you are partly correct lol. I really cant post anymore.
you make it sound like they do it our of the goodness of their hearts... its not a charity is it , they are highly paid highly sought after jobs and they have no symapthy from me most people woluld give a testacle to work even a crappy f1 job sweeping the floor or cleaning the windows
 
you make it sound like they do it our of the goodness of their hearts... its not a charity is it , they are highly paid highly sought after jobs and they have no symapthy from me most people woluld give a testacle to work even a crappy f1 job sweeping the floor or cleaning the windows

Im sure you would stay on until 11pm when you stop getting paid at 4pm. To me, this is why you will never progress any further in your line of work than you are now. You own that classic British trait why should i?????,Like i said,enjoy,dont hate the players. Ewwww look im gangster!!!!!
 
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