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Chinese Grand Prix 2013, Shanghai - Race 3/19
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He should have said all this in the first place, now he just looks even more daft for apologising (PR or not)
Nice to see it's all still bubbling at the surface, lets hope it spills over to the track
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That's because I think Vettel wants two things, but he can't have both.
On the one hand he wants to be received well by people and thought of as a nice affable guy.
On the other hand he wants to destroy records, be the best Formula 1 driver there ever was and win everything.
I think he's starting to realise that to achieve this he needs to be ruthless and would rather be an 8+ times world champion than be remembered as the guy who apologised over team orders.
He's realising that he might not be able to leave the legacy of "Mr Nice Guy"...
On the one hand he wants to be received well by people and thought of as a nice affable guy.
On the other hand he wants to destroy records, be the best Formula 1 driver there ever was and win everything.
I think he's starting to realise that to achieve this he needs to be ruthless and would rather be an 8+ times world champion than be remembered as the guy who apologised over team orders.
He's realising that he might not be able to leave the legacy of "Mr Nice Guy"...
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"Lewis Hamilton falls ill in Shanghai ahead of Chinese Grand Prix"
http://www.guardian.co.uk/sport/2013/apr/11/lewis-hamilton-ill-shanghai-chinese
Hope he gets better for the race.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/sport/2013/apr/11/lewis-hamilton-ill-shanghai-chinese
Hope he gets better for the race.
Your post sounds worse than the article! Bad deuse!
As for Vettel, I love it. F1 needs a good rivalry. All we've had for quite some time is corporate needle and a glass thump.
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Awesome, I thought the next grand prix was next weekend but pleasantly surprised to find out I lost track of time and it's in fact this weekend. 
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Times from P1
1. Nico Rosberg Mercedes 1m36.717s 21
2. Lewis Hamilton Mercedes 1m37.171s + 0.454s 20
3. Mark Webber Red Bull-Renault 1m37.658s + 0.941s 21
4. Sebastian Vettel Red Bull-Renault 1m37.942s + 1.225s 20
5. Fernando Alonso Ferrari 1m37.965s + 1.248s 17
6. Jenson Button McLaren-Mercedes 1m38.069s + 1.352s 24
7. Felipe Massa Ferrari 1m38.095s + 1.378s 14
8. Adrian Sutil Force India-Mercedes 1m38.125s + 1.408s 21
9. Romain Grosjean Lotus-Renault 1m38.398s + 1.681s 17
10. Paul di Resta Force India-Mercedes 1m38.561s + 1.844s 15
11. Kimi Raikkonen Lotus-Renault 1m38.790s + 2.073s 16
12. Jean-Eric Vergne Toro Rosso-Ferrari 1m39.057s + 2.340s 19
13. Pastor Maldonado Williams-Renault 1m39.158s + 2.441s 22
14. Nico Hulkenberg Sauber-Ferrari 1m39.180s + 2.463s 21
15. Daniel Ricciardo Toro Rosso-Ferrari 1m39.336s + 2.619s 19
16. Sergio Perez McLaren-Mercedes 1m39.360s + 2.643s 20
17. Valtteri Bottas Williams-Renault 1m39.392s + 2.675s 20
18. Esteban Gutierrez Sauber-Ferrari 1m40.032s + 3.315s 22
19. Jules Bianchi Marussia-Cosworth 1m41.966s + 5.249s 16
20. Max Chilton Marussia-Cosworth 1m42.056s + 5.339s 18
21. Giedo van der Garde Caterham-Renault 1m42.083s + 5.366s 21
22. Ma Qing Hua Caterham-Renault 1m43.545s + 6.828s 20
1. Nico Rosberg Mercedes 1m36.717s 21
2. Lewis Hamilton Mercedes 1m37.171s + 0.454s 20
3. Mark Webber Red Bull-Renault 1m37.658s + 0.941s 21
4. Sebastian Vettel Red Bull-Renault 1m37.942s + 1.225s 20
5. Fernando Alonso Ferrari 1m37.965s + 1.248s 17
6. Jenson Button McLaren-Mercedes 1m38.069s + 1.352s 24
7. Felipe Massa Ferrari 1m38.095s + 1.378s 14
8. Adrian Sutil Force India-Mercedes 1m38.125s + 1.408s 21
9. Romain Grosjean Lotus-Renault 1m38.398s + 1.681s 17
10. Paul di Resta Force India-Mercedes 1m38.561s + 1.844s 15
11. Kimi Raikkonen Lotus-Renault 1m38.790s + 2.073s 16
12. Jean-Eric Vergne Toro Rosso-Ferrari 1m39.057s + 2.340s 19
13. Pastor Maldonado Williams-Renault 1m39.158s + 2.441s 22
14. Nico Hulkenberg Sauber-Ferrari 1m39.180s + 2.463s 21
15. Daniel Ricciardo Toro Rosso-Ferrari 1m39.336s + 2.619s 19
16. Sergio Perez McLaren-Mercedes 1m39.360s + 2.643s 20
17. Valtteri Bottas Williams-Renault 1m39.392s + 2.675s 20
18. Esteban Gutierrez Sauber-Ferrari 1m40.032s + 3.315s 22
19. Jules Bianchi Marussia-Cosworth 1m41.966s + 5.249s 16
20. Max Chilton Marussia-Cosworth 1m42.056s + 5.339s 18
21. Giedo van der Garde Caterham-Renault 1m42.083s + 5.366s 21
22. Ma Qing Hua Caterham-Renault 1m43.545s + 6.828s 20
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Yeah, the Merc's are not only going fast, but once again going longer, so deffo have more than quali fuel and showing the speed on longer runs. Webber did a good time but came out after the Merc's and has since gone back in while the Mercs are still out and going faster.
I'm still thinking that car is almost awesome but they haven't perfectly got that car sorted in terms of race strategy. Though there is a lot of luck in cars/track. I think the Lotus just perfectly worked out for a 2 stop at Aussie, while other cars were caught somewhere between a 2 and 3, at another track the Lotus will be caught between a 2 and 3 stop, while another car will have to do a 3 stop but will "fit" better, faster while doing the 3 stop and works out better.
Unfortunately it seems to be almost all about tyres + luck with getting into a pit stop strategy that leaves you in a lot of clear air.
I'm still thinking that car is almost awesome but they haven't perfectly got that car sorted in terms of race strategy. Though there is a lot of luck in cars/track. I think the Lotus just perfectly worked out for a 2 stop at Aussie, while other cars were caught somewhere between a 2 and 3, at another track the Lotus will be caught between a 2 and 3 stop, while another car will have to do a 3 stop but will "fit" better, faster while doing the 3 stop and works out better.
Unfortunately it seems to be almost all about tyres + luck with getting into a pit stop strategy that leaves you in a lot of clear air.
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Rosberg goes top with a 1m35.819s on softs. That is a faster time then MSC last year. Webber did a 1m36.092s on softs.
A 1m35.340s from Massa! on softs
The Lotus drivers, currently 14th and 15th now going on to softs.
Massa\Kimi\Alonso are the top 3 now
A 1m35.340s from Massa! on softs
The Lotus drivers, currently 14th and 15th now going on to softs.
Massa\Kimi\Alonso are the top 3 now
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Watching bit of FP2 before work on BBC2
Will the soft tire do more than 6 laps? and will pasta stay on the track lol
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