Soldato
when ever i was naughty my dad used to threaten to send me to bording school
As long as it was an approved one
Cigarette Prices
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Soldato
I think it hilarious the amount of people that are smoking the e-cigs, have you seen the sort of **** the chinese make??? and you want to take something they have made and breathe it all in lmao ill stick to my bensons
The irony is that you are already poisoning yourself slowly with them bensons. Vaping should be promoted more as it could save so many people from death, disease, pain and suffering. Most e-juices have to adhere to a standard and as far as i know they are completely non-toxic.
They can't be promoted as there has been no long term research into the side effects or benefits of using them. There are no regulations on using them and as for them not being a tobacco product it means that any kid can smoke them before they are 16/18 what ever the law is now. So kids can now be addicted to Nicotine a lot easier by the age of 10/12 etc.
Yep... it's totally like saying people should no longer eat food.
Congrats on quitting (not joking there), but I have to say that quitting was an achievement from a goal YOU set for YOURSELF, which is great and I am being sincere in saying well done. However not everyone wants to quit or set themselves a goal to quit or cut down.
I dont really understand some of these arguments on this thread. I've never read an article, seen a news report or witnessed a car crash or a domestic beating that was caused by a man, woman or child who had one cigarette too many or binged smoked rollys, the day that happens then maybe I will consider other peoples effect from my smoking. As for smelling... mate, some people smell nasty whether they smoke or not.
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I think it hilarious the amount of people that are smoking the e-cigs, have you seen the sort of **** the chinese make??? and you want to take something they have made and breathe it all in lmao ill stick to my bensons
Not all liquids are made in China...
There's a bloke near me who used to supply the local teens with fags
When I was a lad we used to go to "fag ladies house"
We just called her fag lady, she sold cheap fags to everyone, boxes and boxes piled up to the ceiling.
As somebody who accepts that they are addicted to nicotine and that has tried giving up a few times in the past, I still don't understand why you get so aggressive about it. It has absolutely no bearing on your life whether or not I choose not to attempt giving up again.
I'm glad you managed it. It's great for you and as you say, is a victory for your willpower. It doesn't give you the moral authority to be rude or aggressive toward other people though, if anything I'd expect you to be more understanding of what a nicotine addiction is like.
Soldato
You should know by now that ex smokers act like born again christians. Let them rant, it obvious bothers them more than anyone else
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I think it hilarious the amount of people that are smoking the e-cigs, have you seen the sort of **** the chinese make??? and you want to take something they have made and breathe it all in lmao ill stick to my bensons
I'd stop there if I was you, if you know nothing on the subject of e-cigs you will come out with egg on your face.
Man of Honour
This is 100% true because us non smokers have just accepted it over (for me) five decades.
We non smokers are also very tolerant of smoke smells compared to born again ex smokers. For example last week I had 2 mates in the car one an ex smoker for 9 months and one who still smokes. When the smoker got out of the car (obviously not smoking in my car) the ex smoker verbally took him apart with how much he smells but I'm sitting there not knowing because I've suffered it for all those years.
3 of my band members have started vaping over the last few months and I'm now getting home from gigs at least 45 minutes earlier. They never realised how much time they spent smoking after they came off the stage and then back out again halfway through packing the gear away.
Another interesting statistic for ex smokers or vapers is how much time you now have to carry on with day to day stuff now you don't waste all the time going outside? My mate reckons in the evening he's got at least 1hr 10 mins more time on his XBox now he vapes.
Who said anything about me being a smoker? I quit last november, mainly due to prices. I enjoyed a tab, whilst others may say you dont get anything out of it, you dont eating chocolate.. But its nice to have it. I quit because i felt i was forced to, not because i wanted to. The want in me, that helped me to quit was because i couldnt afford to continue.
As much as people say you get no benefit, i believe you do. There is a satisfaction to toking on a tab, and whether i have an addiction or not, what concern has it to you? Does it affect you in any way? Like i said, ignorant trying to change peoples lives for nothing other than a bandwagen. I believe its prople like you who are all the same with your ridiculous analogies
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I think it hilarious the amount of people that are smoking the e-cigs, have you seen the sort of **** the chinese make??? and you want to take something they have made and breathe it all in lmao ill stick to my bensons
I DIY my own liquid or mainly purchase from trusted UK juice vendors.
Soldato
I like people who smoke, they keep my taxes lower, keep it up and smoke more.
Man of Honour
Because I don't want to pay for your treatment in the NHS when you develop Lung Cancer or other smoking related diseases (which I hope you never do, and wouldn't wish it on anyone.) Sure you pay too - we all do (well most of us!), however, if I ever needed (God forbid) a lung transplant, I sure as hell feel I should get priority over a smoker.
I don't care if taxes go elsewhere, I'd rather live in a healthier environment - and at least the trend is now downwards for smokers.
It's also not quitting because the government says so, it's because it's a healthier thing to do?
Also, it's antisocial, it's gross, and I don't understand why you'd want to kill yourself a little more every day by smoking something which isn't of any benefit to you.
However, what I do agree with you on, is the fact that you should have the right to choose... so I am a little conflicted and possibly contradicting myself a little. That said, perhaps those that smoke should be flagged as such on their NHS records so that things are dealt more fairly.
Ultimately, it's a life choice you make - I have access to alcohol and lots of other things, I don't use them because they are of no interest to me and I don't get why you'd want to abuse those substances.
That said, I'll probably keel over tomorrow!
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If its any consolation the cancer you'll get will end your life early so dont worry it wont cost you that much in the long term
Unless you die in an accident or from organ damage/disease resulting from another lifestyle choice the odds are that you will succumb to cancer whether you smoke or not, I don't smoke anymore but that was for ease of breathing not fear of cancer.
Because I don't want to pay for your treatment in the NHS when you develop Lung Cancer or other smoking related diseases (which I hope you never do, and wouldn't wish it on anyone.) Sure you pay too - we all do (well most of us!), however, if I ever needed (God forbid) a lung transplant, I sure as hell feel I should get priority over a smoker.
I don't care if taxes go elsewhere, I'd rather live in a healthier environment - and at least the trend is now downwards for smokers.
It's also not quitting because the government says so, it's because it's a healthier thing to do?
Also, it's antisocial, it's gross, and I don't understand why you'd want to kill yourself a little more every day by smoking something which isn't of any benefit to you.
However, what I do agree with you on, is the fact that you should have the right to choose... so I am a little conflicted and possibly contradicting myself a little. That said, perhaps those that smoke should be flagged as such on their NHS records so that things are dealt more fairly.
Ultimately, it's a life choice you make - I have access to alcohol and lots of other things, I don't use them because they are of no interest to me and I don't get why you'd want to abuse those substances.
That said, I'll probably keel over tomorrow!
But that would mean the same as someone else, such an an obese person would it not? or anyone else who causes harm that is infact, their own fault? Do they get any different treatment?
Smokers pay between 1-2k a year in tax alone, on a basis of 20 cigs a day. That more than pays for their treatment in itself, so you wouldnt in effect be paying for any smokers health bill. Not all smokers get cancer, you're just more of a risk to get it, and a high one at that. my gran toked 40 a day every day until she passed away, and never had any form of cancer. a lot of things nowadays can cause cancer in some way.
Its freedom of choice, and slowly the goverment is taking that away from people, with the excuse that its bad, like everything else. They would prefer people to just sit at home watching jeremy kyle than to go out and socialise.. just so they can say they are pulling us out of the debt they allowed to happen, whilst willingly sending tax money overseas like we are some world charity with money to squander.
When I smoked, I respected other people. I didnt smoke around them, and I was actually all for the smoking outdoors policy, it was fair.
Being a non smoker now, I can also smell how bad it is when someone who has just had a tab smells, its really strong and stale.. but it doesnt mean I wish that person not to sit near me nor that he should give up or complain now that hes stealing all the NHS funding with his dirty little habbit.
My thing with smoking was always, I'm not really afraid of the cancer or death. If I died tomorrow it wouldn't be any great tragedy, I had a good few years.
I gave up because I felt unhealthy, I couldn't walk up the hill from the shops without getting out of puff, and it made exercising a lot harder.
I gave up because I felt unhealthy, I couldn't walk up the hill from the shops without getting out of puff, and it made exercising a lot harder.
Caporegime
Not all liquids are made in China...
Dont stop him from making himself look stupid
, quite enjoyable to watch.
Soldato
Well please enlighten me about e-cigs as i would really like to know more about them and any long term effects these things have on the end user.
Caporegime
I'd stop there if I was you, if you know nothing on the subject of e-cigs you will come out with egg on your face.
Majnu whats that on top of your provari mate??.
Man of Honour
No one knows, they've only been around for a couple of years and there's no real research been done on them.
This isn't me saying I think they're a death liquid though just that no one really knows.