Civic Type R, the proper one...

[TW]Fox;13666530 said:
WHEEL TORQUE!!!!
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I don't see the petrol versions revving to 8,000 rpm therefore I suspect there's little in it standard to standard? Remap the diesel and as much as it pains me to say it I'd expect it to leave the petrol wanting.
 
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Would you spend £19k on a car with no appreciable warranty? Not sure I would, unless it really was a plaything and the money didn't mean too much to me.

The FN2 is crap though, so I'm not really sure what your options are Honda-wise. S2000?

If you can stretch to a bit more you could be looking at nearly-new Evo X territory.
 
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merlin said:
I don't see the petrol versions revving to 8,000 rpm therefore I suspect there's little in it standard to standard? Remap the diesel and as much as it pains me to say it I'd expect it to leave the petrol wanting.
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You fail. The door is over there --->
 
Honda's are for spotty oiks or retired gentlemen in beige, there are 25 years in between where you are allowed the one built specially for you, the NSX and if you can't get one of them it MUST be something German.

CONFORM!
 
Durzel said:
Would you spend £19k on a car with no appreciable warranty? Not sure I would, unless it really was a plaything and the money didn't mean too much to me.

The FN2 is crap though, so I'm not really sure what your options are Honda-wise. S2000?

If you can stretch to a bit more you could be looking at nearly-new Evo X territory.
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The FN2 really isn't crap though.
 
Ok scrub crap.

"Disappointing" perhaps.

It felt it after my Facelift EP3. Shame cos the rest of the car was better, performance and handling simply didn't feel it.
 
[TW]Fox;13666530 said:
WHEEL TORQUE!!!!
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Do the sums, the diesel still puts more torque to the road.

The gear ratios do help the petrols but not enough to put more torque to the road over a diesel, you will as always however have a wider power band in the petrol. In most cases even a gear up a diesel will still have more torque on the road of course this depends on what petrol you are comparing it to.

If I was Merlin I would be looking at a 330d and remapping it. Maybe a 335i/d if they are around the budget but would have thought it would be tight.
 
My budget might just squeeze a 325D (ED model to keep the CO2 to reasonable levels, get the better economy and get the higher bhp output).

The problem is getting one with the ED engine, dealers aint daft - they know people like me are looking for the ED model and they're pricing accordingly.

Just had a quick nose at the Merc site - nice, I like the C220Cdi Sport but there's none for sale 2nd hand to my spec (one year old & MT). I think they're all out on the road these things and in two years the used car market will be full of the buggers. I'm looking for 1 year old cars as at 1 year old they're mint but have just lost a bucket load of cash and importantly there's no VAT (we're not VAT registered so new cars = ouch).
 
Thats the bloody problem with Mercs, most seem to be sodding Auto's.

How about a Accord EXGT and a remap, not quite as prestigeous, but just as bland as the beemer:p CO2 on them is 21%, not sure how that compares to the BMW.
 
Merc or BMW is where my money would go at this price point if I were seeking a practical business mode of transport. Actually I would go for a 3 year old 5 series with low mileage probably.
 
I have to be honest and say I really rate bmw diesels.

Nick has an e46 330d and it really shifts, not sure if the 325d is a twin turbo 4pot but if it is I'd imagine remapped it would be good fun
 
In the 325D it's basically the 330D engine but detuned. Single turbo on it, same as the 330D, it's only the 335D that gets two blowers.

Circa 200bhp and 295lbft for the 325D.
 
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